Too early to tell on the Greinke deal, and from the brewer's standpoint depends almost entirely on whether we make the post season this year or next. We gave up a ton to get Geinke--an exciting deal, but if we don't win it's a "bad deal." At least half of who we gave kc will be solid if not better. Marcum deal seems to be working out for both sides; he's been amazing, I recognized his value but admittedly undervalued him. Lawrie's O at AAA vegas couldn't be much better at this point.