2010-07-24 Nationals (Martin) at Brewers (Parra), 6:10 PM CDT [Brewers win, 4-3]

[jjkoestler]

Gritty gamer.

 

I'm pretty sure Prince will murder someone if he gets hit this inning.

[Hofbraunhaus]

I can't believe Rickie is still in the game. He is really lucky it hit him in the helmet and not the face.

[jjkoestler]

It looked like Joe spiked the SS to break up the double play. Am I seeing things?

[jeffy]

That's a run, right?

 

I thought if the batter did not reach first there would be no run. A run can not score on an inning ending conventional double play, for example.

[razzzorsharp]

That is not a run Bill. Jeepers man.

[jflick1215]

It's a run. Score should be 2-1. stay tuned http://forum.brewerfan.net/images/smilies/smile.gif

[amt2138]

Run should count. A guy not tagging up like at first is a timing play rather than a force out. Since the run scored before the out it counts

[razzzorsharp]

That is not a run Bill. Jeepers man.

Looks like I am the idiot.

[hawing]

Don't be so hard on yourself, razzz. It's an uncommon situation. http://forum.brewerfan.net/images/smilies/smile.gif

 

jflick, is this "your" game?

[BrewCrewForever]

Oh man I hope this is not the "Parra" inning.

[jflick1215]

Yep, this is my game. Would've been all over the tube there if they would've panned out from O'Driscoll a bit http://forum.brewerfan.net/images/smilies/smile.gif Crazy action there, but the poster above had it correct, good call. also good call by Rock, who was all over it right away (he came in here after the 1/2 inning). Lots of confusion. My goodness this would be a tough loss...

[Loopee]

Run should count.

 

While a run can never score on a double play ending in a force play, touching the bag behind a runner is not considered a force play:

 

From the official rules on MLB website. Comment to force play

 

A FORCE PLAY is a play in which a runner legally loses his right to occupy a base by reason of the batter becoming a runner.

Rule 2.00 (Force Play) Comment: Confusion regarding this play is removed by remembering that frequently the “force” situation is removed during the play. Example: Man on first, one out, ball hit sharply to first baseman who touches the bag and batter-runner is out. The force is removed at that moment and runner advancing to second must be tagged. If there had been a runner on third or second, and either of these runners scored before the tag-out at second, the run counts. Had the first baseman thrown to second and the ball then had been returned to first, the play at second was a force out, making two outs, and the return throw to first ahead of the runner would have made three outs. In that case, no run would score.

Example: Not a force out. One out. Runner on first and third. Batter flies out. Two out. Runner on third tags up and scores. Runner on first tries to retouch before throw from fielder reaches first baseman, but does not get back in time and is out. Three outs. If, in umpire’s judgment, the runner from third touched home before the ball was held at first base, the run counts.

 

Somebody on the Nationals should bring out a copy of the rulebook.

[BrewCrewForever]

That was another bad 2 strike pitch by Parra. Not as bad as the pitch to McCann in his last start, but still bad.

[jeffy]

Run should count.

 

While a run can never score on a double play ending in a force play, touching the bag behind a runner is not considered a force play:

 

 

and what I was thinking of...the batter reaching first, is only a factor if that is the third out:

 

A run is not scored if the runner advances to home base during a play in which the third out is made (1) by the batter-runner before he touches first base

 

from rule 4.09

[hawing]

Oh, Manny, just because jflick is at the game doesn't mean you should implode, even vs. Mr. Home Run. Come on.

 

Edit: That'll do.

[BrewCrewForever]

Wow, nice work Manny.

[BrewCrewForever]

If Escobar doesn't hesitate I think he is safe easily.

[jjkoestler]

Awful base running.

[BrewCrewForever]

That a boy Johnny!

[thablingster]

Hearing Uecker call that RBI double brings me joy. Welcome back, Bob! Hooray Lucroy, hooray lead!

[pebadger]

According to ESPN Gamecast, Prince is hitting 35 points higher than his season average when facing an 0-2 count. Seconds after seeing that, Prince gets another 0-2 hit.

[pebadger]

An, reiterating for the record, WMLW makes my eyes bleed. Ueck and Gameday/Gamecast are preferable.

[BrewCrewForever]

An, reiterating for the record, WMLW makes my eyes bleed. Ueck and Gameday/Gamecast are preferable.

No kidding, how can they let the picture be this bad.

[hawing]

Axford inherits the slimmest lead possible. Come on, John, hang in there (hawing said hopefully).

[BrewCrewForever]

Perhaps Axford has been over used?