I know there is a start up in the beer thread, but I need to get some advice in my own thread. I have two friends that do home brewing and they swear by it. lot of fun they say, but there also both single, meaning more money and more time. Me = married with two kids, so I'm lacking a little in both categories. I really want to do it because I'm sick of going to the store and spending 8.49 on a nice IPA or porter. i want to get a starter kit and try ot out, but I have people giving me conflicting advice. I want to get a few nice batches going, so I want a nice kit, but don't want to spend 350 bucks. Are either of these kits good?? http://www.midwestsupplies.com/products/ProdByID.aspx?ProdID=3315 http://www.northernbrewer.com/brewing/starter-kits/better-basic-starter-kit.html It seems like with the Midwest kit your getting more for you money but I'm not sure. Will I have enough time and resources to do this??? All opinions appreciated. Thanks for all the help. Aaron