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I think the thing that is going to prevent keeping Corey is the contracts that Upton, Victorino, and Pagan have signed. I think you have to look at reworking his contract. Maybe something in the line of 4/50 million. Thats what the market seems to be at at for this type of player. That keeps him in Milwaukee till he's 35 and that is quite a deal for someone that is going to hit .275-.280 hit an average of 30+ doubles 25+ homeruns and drive in 85+ runs. I believe if he is not traded this year. If he puts up the numbers he did last year. He hits free agency next year and gets an Upton type deal. A five year deal in the neighborhood of 60-75 million I think this is a realistic number. He gives clubs some options. He's still very dependable in the outfield. He might need to move to left field. As a first basement he has the opportunity to be a gold glove caliber player over the next few years. I watched probably 90% of the games he played at 1st. If it had been most other 1st basemen in the league the infield defense would have really suffered. He probably saved the infield a collective 10 or 15 errors. I can guarntee that Rameriz would have mentioned Corey if he had won the gold glove because he bailed him out on several throws from third. Just my thoughts. He's everything you want in a "team player". I really believe he has been part of the core everyone always talks about, but is never mentioned as part of it. From what I can tell he's a fan favored, a good guy in the community, a good club house guy and a pretty darn good player to boot. And to top it off he really wants to stay. I think if you weigh all that, he's one you want around your younger palyers. He seem to do it the right way.

Come on guys I know its nerve racking, but gees. we are 6-7 in September and could easily be 8-5 or 9-4. We were really in one game we lost in St. Louis and 2 of the games we lost against Philly. In Philly one bad inning in game 2 (only one) and an error in game three. Over the next 6 games we go 4-2 (very doable) 91-65 the Cardinals go 2-4 (very doable) 83-72. An 8 game spread with 7 to play for the Cardinals. Even if it takes a game or two longer. We win 4 they lose 4 its over. GAME SET MATCH. My concern is not the Cardinals, but the Diamondbacks. That's where every ones focus should be. It would be nice to win the division and have home field advantaged. We as fans deserve the right to watch game one in Milwaukee.

If any of ya'll are at the game could you please check and see if Ned Yost is in our dug out.http://forum.brewerfan.net/images/smilies/smile.gif

It just irrates me when people don't look at the whole pitcure. I agree if you take his numbers from all star break til the end of the season that's what you get. But the kid had a three week slump, not a from all star break slump. Now I agree I hope he works on plate discipline during Spring Training to bring up is OBP, but everything else seems to work out to at or above league average. His actual numbers from all star break to Sept 5th were actual pretty good. AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI TB BB K SB CS AVE. OBP SLG OPS 179 25 51 16 2 5 25 87 7 11 9 2 .285 .312 .480 .792 So pretty much everyone on this forum wants to give up on him for 3 WEEKS. I just don't see it. He is dedicated player who works to improve constantly. Was in camp without a contract because it was the right thing to do. And everyone on here remembers 3 weeks.

I think it is a deal that needs to be made. Probably 2/12 to 2/14 would get it done. The latest rumor this morning is that the Dodgers are only interest in a one year deal. And besides having TREVOR coming out in the ninth inning to Hell's Bell's would make Miller park explode. The only other intro song that comes close is Rick Vaughn's Wild Thang.

Again trading Corey is a very very bad idea. Just check his track record. Even as far back as Ogden after he struggles he always comes back even stronger. He has proved it over and over again, and until he proves he can't I think it is a mistake to trade him. I almost gaurantee if he does get traded he will bounce back and put up the line everyone is custom to seeing from him. the only problem is it would be for someone else.

Sometimes the statements on this forum completely confuse me. Both JJ & Corey have said repeatedly that they want to remain with the Brewer's long term. Not once have they mentioned wanting out of Milwaukee. If trying to get the best deal they can for themselves and family is wrong, then we probably need to ship out everyone and start all over because every player wants the maximum they can get in a long term contract.

Rumor had it that it was 5 years between 17.5 & 20 million. I believe I would have waited too.

Just listened to Corey's interview. How could you not want this kid on your team long term? He realizes his short comings and has been working out for the past three months trying to get better. The closeness of Braun, JJ, & Corey remind me of the 3 B's in Houston and look how long they stayed together and what they accomplished. I hope Melvin makes this a proirty this year to lock up JJ & Corey long term. This could give us that nucleus everyone is always looking for for years to come.

I might be slow, but what did this have to do with the announcing of Macha as manager?

FINALLY, someone that at least things along the lines I've been preaching for the last two months. The pieces are in place, if CC is obtainable sign him for the 4 year $100 million, I think everyone would be disappointed to see Sheets go, but year after year of injury. Adding Yo in his place in the rotation is a push to me. I see Yo as many clubs number 1 and he will be an above average number 2 in our rotation. 2007 with this core we had to learn to win, we did. 2008 we made the next natural progression 90-72 and made the playoff. 2009 everyone from Prince, if not traded needs to show more plate discipline and try and not hit a home run in every at bat. Corey & Braun need to show more patients at the plate. Weeks just needs to play the game and try to not take the media, fans, brewerfan, and the press not so seriously. (you know that the majority of all Brewer players read Brewerfan). JJ just needs to try and improve on last year). Sign Durham & Kapler back for the experience if they are willing to come back in a lesser role. And if he is not in our system spend the money to get an established closer if he is out there, but I believe that McClung has a closer mentality if given the chance. A little fine tuning and this group should at least have the same success as last year and with a little luck possibly a little better.

This is beyond comprehension to me. Ever year Corey has put up the numbers. His walks increased every year except 2008. Through out minor league and his stint in the majors he has always had a strong August and September till this year. So to say that he has already peaked I just don't get. Every time he slumps he gets it turned around to a positive and becomes a better hitter. I do know that he was second on the team in extra base hits. And if he had not had Prince in front of him you could probably add about 10 more XBH and possible 5 to 7 steals to his total, which would have put him in the medium A type player versus the high B as he is listed at now. Trading Corey or JJ IMO would be major step back for this organization. Sign Corey and JJ to a multi year deal, try to reel in CC. Continue to build from within. We have turned the corner with this core. Start trading and we will regress back 4 years when the rebuilding process actually started. And lastly all the way through August Corey was one of the ones everyone on this forum wanted to sign to a long term deal. It's funny what a basic 3 week slump will get you with the fans. I'd take his numbers till September 5th and basically match them with any right fielder in the national league.

Are you saying that Corey did not deserve the All-star vote. Of the Five on the list his numbers matched up pretty evenly with all of them.

I just don't want to give up to much. Pretty much very trade mentioned seems to be their one player for a package of ours. It's way to early to be giving up the future. That being said the only one for one trade prospect with someone in the wings to fill in is at First base. I can see a Fielder for Cain trade even up. I still believe Corey will have a solid year, I believe it is to early to bring up Escobar, so trading JJ makes no sense. I also believe that we will make some type of move in Centerfield that doesn't include Cameron.

I know it just opinion's, but this forum has us trading everyone that's tradable traded. I know pitching is a major concern and I think Cain is the most obtainable of all pitchers out there, but it means given up two or three position players. I'm just not sure it's worth it. Trade Corey, JJ, Prince, Weeks, or Hall. Everyone one of them have been mentioned in a trade or in combination of a trade. I just hope management doesn't go down this road. I honestly believe that Corey, JJ, Prince and either Weeks or Hall are going to put together solid 2009 seasons. I don't know the answer but Corey, JJ, & Prince (hold on to him at least one or two more years) are a good nucleus along with Braun to build a contending team for several years.