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I ilke Parra and Gallardo too, but Gallardo will be coming off a year long injury and Parra still has trouble with command. I still think Parra is a #3, but that is quibbling. You are talking about a very young, inexperienced rotation to try and win the division with. EVen the young Tigers had Kenny RogerI like our core players too, but I think you have to take your chances now and deal the guy who may not have position (Gamel). I would keep LaPorta and Jeffress and deal Gamel. For those of you who have disagreed with me on this subjecdt I doubt I can change your minds so we'll have to agree to disagree....even if I am right http://forum.brewerfan.net/images/smilies/smile.gif.

Gamel and LaPorta could turn out to both be ALL-STARS from the get-go, but no matter how good they are, if you don't have pitching, you will not win. Period.

Gamel and LaPorta could turn out to both be ALL-STARS from the get-go, but no matter how good they are, if you don't have pitching, you will not win. Period.

Gamel and LaPorta could turn out to both be ALL-STARS from the get-go, but no matter how good they are, if you don't have pitching, you will not win. Period.

The Braves have a tendency to pump their prospects more than anybody and then deal them away when they don't pan out. Granted, Salty is a good prospect and I think will be a good catcher, but he couldn't beat out Gerald Laird for starting job. harrison had a shoulder strain last year and his velocity is down to the mid-upper 80's. Andrus may be okay and Perez projects as a reliever, not a starter. Don't forget the Rangers also had to package a good lefty reliever in Mahay as well. Kind of sounds like the Capellan deal doesn't it? They pumped up Capellan as the next great thing and look what we got! Not only that, but the Braves did what I am advocating the Brewers do. They had a surplus of pitching prospects and they dealt the extra for what they needed. What other teams have pitching prospects to deal? Are they so bereft of 1B options taht they would deal the most valuable chips they have, pitching, for Fielder?

The Braves have a tendency to pump their prospects more than anybody and then deal them away when they don't pan out. Granted, Salty is a good prospect and I think will be a good catcher, but he couldn't beat out Gerald Laird for starting job. harrison had a shoulder strain last year and his velocity is down to the mid-upper 80's. Andrus may be okay and Perez projects as a reliever, not a starter. Don't forget the Rangers also had to package a good lefty reliever in Mahay as well. Kind of sounds like the Capellan deal doesn't it? They pumped up Capellan as the next great thing and look what we got! Not only that, but the Braves did what I am advocating the Brewers do. They had a surplus of pitching prospects and they dealt the extra for what they needed. What other teams have pitching prospects to deal? Are they so bereft of 1B options taht they would deal the most valuable chips they have, pitching, for Fielder?

The Braves have a tendency to pump their prospects more than anybody and then deal them away when they don't pan out. Granted, Salty is a good prospect and I think will be a good catcher, but he couldn't beat out Gerald Laird for starting job. harrison had a shoulder strain last year and his velocity is down to the mid-upper 80's. Andrus may be okay and Perez projects as a reliever, not a starter. Don't forget the Rangers also had to package a good lefty reliever in Mahay as well. Kind of sounds like the Capellan deal doesn't it? They pumped up Capellan as the next great thing and look what we got! Not only that, but the Braves did what I am advocating the Brewers do. They had a surplus of pitching prospects and they dealt the extra for what they needed. What other teams have pitching prospects to deal? Are they so bereft of 1B options taht they would deal the most valuable chips they have, pitching, for Fielder?

Piccione88 I am in very of building from within as you are, but at some point you have to pull the trigger. Part of the reason you accumulate as many prospects as you can is so that you can trade them as needed. The Brewers have plenty of young hitters and Gamel and LaPorta are truly top prospects, but the Brewers have very few pitching prospects close to the bigs. If you only develop hitters you wind up as the Texas Rangers. You have to have pitching to win and unless they go get somebody that can make a difference, and Wolf is not that guy, they won't get there. And don't forget, when Sabathia leaves they get a first rounder and a supplemental pick or two supplemental picks at the minimum to help rebuild.

Piccione88 I am in very of building from within as you are, but at some point you have to pull the trigger. Part of the reason you accumulate as many prospects as you can is so that you can trade them as needed. The Brewers have plenty of young hitters and Gamel and LaPorta are truly top prospects, but the Brewers have very few pitching prospects close to the bigs. If you only develop hitters you wind up as the Texas Rangers. You have to have pitching to win and unless they go get somebody that can make a difference, and Wolf is not that guy, they won't get there. And don't forget, when Sabathia leaves they get a first rounder and a supplemental pick or two supplemental picks at the minimum to help rebuild.

Piccione88 I am in very of building from within as you are, but at some point you have to pull the trigger. Part of the reason you accumulate as many prospects as you can is so that you can trade them as needed. The Brewers have plenty of young hitters and Gamel and LaPorta are truly top prospects, but the Brewers have very few pitching prospects close to the bigs. If you only develop hitters you wind up as the Texas Rangers. You have to have pitching to win and unless they go get somebody that can make a difference, and Wolf is not that guy, they won't get there. And don't forget, when Sabathia leaves they get a first rounder and a supplemental pick or two supplemental picks at the minimum to help rebuild.

Do you really think that the Brewers will have a playoff staff next year without Sheets? Harden is going to cost as much as Sabathia, for precisely the reasons you listed for obtaining him. His salary is only 7 mil and he is signed through next year. The staff will be good and I think Gallardo could be a very good #2 and Parra a very good pitcher as well, but does anyone on the staff or on the horizon equal a Ben Sheets? The Brewers need pitching to win and they will have to give up a prospect to get it. If you give up lower prospects to get the Randy Wolf's of the world you get exactly that, the Randy Wolf's of the world. How many titles do you really hope for with Wolf as your savior?

Do you really think that the Brewers will have a playoff staff next year without Sheets? Harden is going to cost as much as Sabathia, for precisely the reasons you listed for obtaining him. His salary is only 7 mil and he is signed through next year. The staff will be good and I think Gallardo could be a very good #2 and Parra a very good pitcher as well, but does anyone on the staff or on the horizon equal a Ben Sheets? The Brewers need pitching to win and they will have to give up a prospect to get it. If you give up lower prospects to get the Randy Wolf's of the world you get exactly that, the Randy Wolf's of the world. How many titles do you really hope for with Wolf as your savior?