Sorry i forgot brian, force of habit. Im not talking Down to anyone. Im saying the people that continuosly say" its only 1 series" "this is a top NL team" were still 7 and 5 " u get my drift << add all these up they point to one type of fan. These are the fans, that are ok with being .500. I dont like being average, especially when we should be alot better then avg. Would you really be happy if we went say 25 games under .500 to the top 2 teams in each division and just bashed on the crappy teams like pittsburgh washington florida. and we have say 88 wins but miss playoffs by lets say 3 games? I dont calla season where you are owned by any good team and dominate the crap teams a sucsesfull one. Yea they may have a winning season, but it kinda be like thebears of 200 or when ever they got lucky in every game. Im not lookin for perfect games and 10 run games by the offense im lookin for them to play solid fundamental baseball not just one game, But for a majority of the season. Do you think losing because of not hitting with risp, errors bad baserunning, is a thing any playoff contender does a majority of the season? Sure 1 or 2 week stint maybe but that is it. Im sick of losing games not because a team is better, which is what everyone here says... but because we kill ourselves with stupid dumbbb mistakes errors no hitting risp no bunting fundamentals basebath errors trying to hit a 6 run homer down 3 with no one on not hitting in the situation ie need a sac fly and someone strikes out umm do u get where im going? Playoff teams dont embarrass themselves like the brewers did today