Hey all! Long time lurker, first time poster. I've been reading the forum for years and finally decided to join the fun. I've enjoyed reading the Hader proposals and I haven't been this invested in looking at the Brewers unloading a valuable asset since the Lucroy rumors. In my opinion this is a great time to trade Hader with all of the reasons that have been mentioned throughout the conversation (4 years of control, reasonable contract compared to what players are getting on the open market, minimizing risk with heavy usage the last couple of years.) I also agree with those that have said coming to a deal with a team will be difficult. For fun I've been throwing some offers on the trade value simulator which I think can be at least valuable in started to build a reasonable offer. If I were GM I would be looking at pure value coming back rather than plugging holes on the current roster. I would definitely need some sort of pitching to come back unless we are able to get a huge impact bat like a Lux, Luis Robert, Gleyber Torres which I believe is very unlikely. Below are a few of the offers I've been throwing into the simulator. Offer 1: Diamondbacks receive: Josh Hader--48.30 Brewers receive: Seth Beer 1st base (96 overall prospect in AA)-want for potential long term 1st base with power and amazing marketing possibilities--7.5 Daulton Varsho C (100 overall prospect in AA)-catcher of future originally from Marshfield, WI and played at UW-Milwaukee--27.4 Jon Duplantier SP (previous top 100 but struggled in AAA and MLB last year)-5 years of control--3.5 Kevin Ginkel RP (amazing minor league stats and debuted last year with great results)--9.0 Total--47.40 I think the Diamondbacks are looking to make a splash and compete especially after the Bumgarner signing. I think the Brewers should be getting some extra surplus value back over the 48.30 from Hader since they are giving up the best player in the deal, but more than 4 players is not realistic and the trade machine is definitely an inexact science. I think Varsho will jump up quite a bit in the top 100 as well after huge stats last season. I believe the new Pipeline top 100 comes out at the end of January. Offer 2: White Sox receive: Josh Hader--48.3 Brewers receive: Andrew Vaughn 1B (3rd overall pick last year and number 21 overall in top 100)-potential future 1st baseman with 60 grade hit and power--52 Jonathan Stiever SP (White Sox 6th ranked in their top 30)--4.5 Jace Fry RP (4 years control left, lefty reliever)--8.1 Total--64.60 I don't like this one as much as the Diamondbacks offer with less pitching potential coming back and only 3 players but love the prospect of getting Vaughn. I will wrap up this rambling first post as the Rose Bowl is about to start but I'm excited to a part of the conversation now!
