Turnbows Barber
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Saying that there is no extra tax money going to the stadium is technically true but the city/county just passed a tax increase that hasn't even gone into effect yet and the Brewers are already siphoning money off the top. I wouldn't be surprised if the politicians in Madison already had it in mind that part of that tax increase would be going to the Brewers when it was passed. Dan Schafer has written a couple good pieces on the topic and why the Fiserv Forum deal and AFF deal are not comparable. https://milwaukeerecord.com/sports/brewers-vs-bucks-comparing-the-amfam-field-and-fiserv-forum-stadium-deals/ https://www.therecombobulationarea.news/p/brewers-stadium-deal-complicated-question I still question the need for the public contribution to be so high. If Charlotte or Nashville or some other city is willing to pay 85% of the cost of a new stadium (what the public contribution of the current AFF deal is) why is Tampa paying 50% of the cost of their new stadium? If one of those cities had the desire to contribute $1 billion+ to a new stadium, wouldn't Tampa have listened, if for no other reason than to gain leverage even if they didn't want to move? I get that Tampa is a bigger market but it's also a market that has not supported the team and they went as far as considering a crazy alternative of splitting their season between two cities because they couldn't find a better plan.
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I would argue that the Rays situation shows that there was never any realistic chance of the Brewers leaving. The Rays are paying a huge amount of money to build a smaller stadium in a city that hasn't supported them, even though the team has been very successful on the field. I'm sure a new stadium will help them but it's still a city that hasn't given the team much fan support in a location that people still think is a problem. If they couldn't find a better situation in Montreal or Nashville or Charlotte or wherever, with a pretty low bar of finding a better situation than they have been in, how were the Brewers going to, coming from a much better situation? The Brewers/MLB might have done a good job with their scare tactics of how a ton of public money was needed or they could leave but the Rays situation makes me think there was a whole lot of nothing behind it.
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Those details definitely make the deal look better. Player salary taxes may cover the state portion but, unless I'm missing something, does not do anything for the $200 million coming from the county/city, which both recently raised sales tax significantly to avoid being unable to fulfill their basic obligations. Also, if the Republicans eventually get what they want and the state income tax is eliminated, where is the money coming from?
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Why is it that the Brewers are only paying 20% of the cost to renovate AmFam Field while the Rays are paying at least 50% of the cost of their new ballpark? https://www.tampabay.com/sports/rays/2023/09/18/stadium-gas-plant-district-2028-tropicana-field-stuart-sternberg/
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Donaldson added... Miller optioned.... Mejia to 60 Day IL
Turnbows Barber replied to Jastro's topic in Milwaukee Brewers Talk
The MKE Tailgate Podcast had an interesting theory on this week's episode that it's due to a rift between Counsell and Arnold and that Arnold wants Anderson on the roster but Counsell doesn't and is refusing to play him. Seems as plausible as any other potential explanation at this point. -
At least the people disappointed that there were only 6 pages of replies in this post in extra innings of a no hitter should be happier now...
