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And during his time with Holmgren, many... many mistakes were made. Mental and physical. Never once pulled or not started in all those years. Annnnnnd Holmgren was never fired. What's your damn point?!? My god. Well you clearly don't get the point. Mistakes are not the issue. Baseball is full of many more mistakes than any other sport. The point is learning from them and improving. The point is not tolerating mistakes and working hard to not repeat them. The Brewer do not do that, they continue to repeat over and over. When there is a big spot, they try to hit HRs and chase pitches outside of the zone. Over, and over, and over. Shaw wasn't thinking on the field, it happens. I am just speculating, but I assume CC did not use that as teachable moment to get the team to focus on this game. He is not going to try to do or say anything to improve, just shrug his shoulders and say o well that happens.
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We can fire him after the season if we can find someone who isn't scared to win. How do you think Bill Belichick would handle something like that, a player in a week 16 game, tied playing for the division title and they run the wrong route? He would probably tell him to run the right route next time. Also, you have Mike Holmgren in your list of coaches who didn't put up with mental mistakes and that guy's QB was Brett Favre. Holmgren coached Favre for 8 seasons in which he went from leading the league in pics to 3 straight MVPs. Have you heard Favre talk about Holmgren yelling at him all the time? You are thinking of the Mike Sherman led Favre years
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We can fire him after the season if we can find someone who isn't scared to win. How do you think Bill Belichick would handle something like that, a player in a week 16 game, tied playing for the division title and they run the wrong route?
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Knee jerk reaction much? Counsell has a 60 win team in the playoff hunt with less than 2 weeks to play.. yeah, let's get rid of him. This is speaking to everyone ... from now on can we please take a deep breath before posting the first thing that comes to mind on this thread? Some of us only have the gameday up and need explanations of what happened so we come here and it gets a little tiresome to have to read a lot of emotional responses. Just a thought. It is just your opinion that CC is the reason we have more wins than some random computer model thought we "should" have had. Is Counsell out there hitting HRs? Has CC been shutting teams out on the mound? Reminds me of all the people around here who thought RRR was automatically a great manager because we won 96 games, and then he goes on to give 3 playoff starts to Marcum and put Mark Kotsay in CF, essentially be forced by Doug Melvin acquiring JHJr to finally bench McGehee. Has CC ever, and I mean once ever, held a player accountable for a horrible AB with the tying/winning run on 3rd with less than 2 outs? Now I know almost every major manager or coach are equally worthless, but every once in a while you have a winner. We have been lucky around here with guys like Bo Ryan, Barry Alvarez, Mike Holmgren and of course Vince Lombardi. Did these winners tolerate mental mistakes and foolish play? No, they did not. CC just lets it happen
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Lol. Lol okay. The idea works if the batter doesn't run, or the runner stays on first. That didn't happen however. What are you talking about, there was no idea on that. Just complete crap with no focus. There was an extremely easy out at 2nd, or at least catch the frickin bunt
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WHAT????????!!!!!!!!????????????????? No discipline. Fire CC. The team's heads are all out of it
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That pick off attempt would have been Prince Fielder's dream, how many times did he keep the tag on too long or check back on the runner quickly hoping for that to happen
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Nice AB from Shaw, Santana's swing on his 1-1 pitch was shameful
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Braun and Shaw both fouled off 2 obvious balls and both should have walked if they had any discipline and werent just up there guessing at pitches
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Woodruff misses so many spots badly
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yup, although there are about 100 instances from last night where a disciplined team would have won, 1 of those examples was Arcia swinging at the 2nd pitch out of the zone during his AB in the 9th.
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4-10 now
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I thought because CC was a bench player on some world series teams that he knows what it takes to get us there
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fixed that for you
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Susac will K on 4 pitches
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Fine, then do whatever transaction causes him to no longer play for any of our teams
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Bandy looks bad up there, pops everything up
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Crap now Susac has to K this inning
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Great now Pina is hurt
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Real classy look for Cravy. They should DFA him for that, just like the Cubs did with Montero.
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We are not going to hit 2 HRs off Davis, he has given up 4 all year. Work counts, swing at strikes. If only we had a coach or manager to relay this message to our players
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Fathers up 3 now
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Does this ump play for the 1919 White Sox? *** kind of a call was that?
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I wish we would do something like DFA Drake right after the game, just to send a message that we do not tolerate losers. Its not like we need him or should ever use him again anyways. Ok, if you are going to pull Drake, why on earth would you wait to see what he did after allowing 3 straight crushed balls?
