You're right about us finding quality relief arms each year, or atleast one new one each year... Unfortunately, they become sooooo good that our managemenet refuses to trade them, and then their second year with the club (other than Ray King), they stink... Example... Leskanic, DeJean, Viz, etc.... Not an exact science, but I really wish the brewers would trade these guys at the deadline each year... If Estrella gets hot for 2 weeks, I bet we could get a mid-level position prospect for him... heck, we've got plenty of relief pitching prospects, and can always convert some of our lower level starter types.... I don't see the value of hanging on to bullpen guys, or guys with 1/2 or 1 1/2 years left on their contract... If they aren't going to be around for the next Brewers team that contends, trade them for someone who is.... 60-102 or 68-94 for the Brewers, makes no difference to me, but we might get a better draft pick if we don't do as well...