If people realized that last year was his career year and that he is not the pernianal all start that posters claimed last year. That is a generalization that is mostly wrong, and it is really annoying, just because someone has a favorite player, doesn't mean that they think that he is an all-star. Who on Brewerfan.net seemed to think that he was a perenial all-star? Just because people like a player, doesn't mean they think that they are the best in the league. Lots of posters are high on Gross, that doesn't mean that they think he should be an all-star. I never said that he should hit 30 home runs this year, I was thinking more along the lines of 20-25, but there is no doubt this year has been a dissapointment, had he been hitting well, you had Hardy in the 2nd spot being protected by Braun who would see pitches because Fielder was after him, but you would have to pitch to Fielder because Hall is a threat. But that didn't happen.