6/27/07 Astros (Williams) @ Brewers (Suppan): 1:05 PM CDT

[Fear The Chorizo]

I'll take 3 runs over 6 innings from Suppan anytime - he wasn't signed to all of a sudden dominate games, he's not that type of pitcher. If the Crew got a big hit in some of their own innings, they'd be up 5 or 6-3 right now.

 

Wake up, bats!

 

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[SeriesFinale]

Let's take the lead back here after Sup managed to stop the bleeding

 

This game should be ours

[PrinceFielder28]

what happend to the Rockies? Weren't they playing well recently.

[olliegjw]

Quote:

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Soup seems to be channeling Bill Wegman. I always remember Wegman for giving up a lead as soon as it was given to him.

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There are many pitchers like this. This is why I don't agree with Sabrematricians that say pitchers W-L is pretty useless. Some pitchers just know how to hold on to a lead. If you only score one run, the pitcher will shut them out. If you score 6, he may give up 4 or 5. If you have a lot of the latter, the ERA etc. won't look very good, but wins are what matters. I am not saying W-L is the be-all, end-all, but it is more important than many give it credit for.

[TGJforPrez]

Anyone else starting to question Suppan. I know he is just on a bad stretch right now, but he has only pitched out of the 6th inning in 5 of his 16 starts. In 2 of those 5 starts, he has given up 4 or more runs.

 

Suppan: 8-7, 4.91 ERA, 87 ERA+, 1.49 WHIP, 48 K's

Vargas: 6-1, 4.29 ERA, 92 ERA+, 1.50 WHIP, 69 K's

Bush: 5-6, 5.12 ERA, 82 ERA+, 1.332 WHIP, 68 K's

 

Most fans think either Bush or Vargas should be going to the pen when Cap comes back. If you look at these three, there really isnt much difference. While I know Soup isnt going to the pen, its kind of frightening knowing that he is the one making 11 million per year.

[rotoherb]

wow, tough crowd today. Suppan has 7 K, 0 BB and 3 ER through six innings and people are calling it a bad start. Seven hits, but five of them were singles.

[SeriesFinale]

They'd lost three straight before going to Wrigley

 

Alright Miller, let's push him along here

[Fear The Chorizo]

I'd rather discuss why the Brewers haven't been able to score more than 3 runs off Woody Williams than how Suppan could have given up 3 over 6 to the Astros.

 

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[sheethead]

Suppan: 8-7, 4.91 ERA, 87 ERA+, 1.49 WHIP, 48 K's

Vargas: 6-1, 4.29 ERA, 92 ERA+, 1.50 WHIP, 69 K's

Bush: 5-6, 5.12 ERA, 82 ERA+, 1.332 WHIP, 68 K's

 

I wonder how many people think Bush or Vargas will be making $11 million one day?

[PrinceFielder28]

Yeah i was just going to ask why we are making Woody look like a top tier pitcher today

[olliegjw]

Anybody else rather see Suppan up there hitting instead of Gross? Even if they are bringing in another pitcher.

[SeriesFinale]

Pathetic inning there guys

 

This is Woody Williams here

[whynotthebrewers]

Just a quality start for soup. I will second the only 3 runs off woody williams comment.

[sheethead]

Suppan has 7 K, 0 BB and 3 ER through six innings and people are calling it a bad start. Seven hits, but five of them were singles.

 

His second best outing of the year, sorry if I am underwhelmed.

[crewcrazy]

Wise pitching two days in a row?? If it's not televised, does it really happen?

 

Edit: Woohoo! The Astros bullpen will take over in the 7th!

[jjgott]

I am seeing it with my own two eyes here on MLB.tv

[Fear The Chorizo]

nasty 3-2 changeup there by Wise

 

C'mon Matty! One more out and let's get to that Astros bullpen!

 

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[whynotthebrewers]

His second best outing of the year, sorry if I am underwhelmed.

 

There must not be very many games that are good then.

[brewers4eric]

Wise has looked pretty solid lately. He must be channeling Doug Jones during his good year.

[PrinceFielder28]

wow we really looked good that inning

[Fear The Chorizo]

well that 1/2 inning was pathetic

 

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[SeriesFinale]

Wow, the Crew has looked awful at the plate the last two innings

[olliegjw]

Rockies cut the Cubs lead to 5-2. Zambrano should be done for the day, with 107 pitches through 6 innings.

[PrinceFielder28]

Rockies picked up 2 in the top of the 6th to cut the Cubs lead to 5-2

[sheethead]

If he was putting up the line he did today every time out, then i would say he is earning his contract. To me, his outing today was okay, but not great. Maybe my standards are higher than average, but i doubt it. Soup has been struggling for well over a month.