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I read and appreciate his take on things, but where was this group of players when it was happening? I don't recall any outcry from the "clean" players at the time. (and I could be mis-remembering) I don't much care about the HOF, and honestly I'm not sure most of the players actually do either but if you're going to have one, then it's almost criminal to leave out Clemens and Bonds, imo. I could type out a lengthy reasoning but I think it's a topic that almost everyone has a pretty strong opinion on one way or another on already.

Tommy Pham I think offers some "buy low" opportunity, though I'm not sure his buy low contract will be low enough to involve the Brewers. If you really want to scrape I like taking a shot on Vince Velasquez. If he could harness some control he's still got potential. Maybe a transition to the bull-pen is in order.

I don't like the blame one unit\ player mentality. Obviously special teams was a problem, 10 points was a problem. Outside of the defense, which played well and the first drive of the game there's a whole lot of disappointment. Is it coaching, is it personnel, likely some of both. As seen for the last 30 years, having a HOF QB will win you a lot of regulars season games but doesn't always equate to championships. I'm probably going with an unpopular opinion here, but Rodgers needs to share the blame on this one. One of his biggest strengths is taking care of the ball; also one of his biggest weaknesses is taking care of the ball. Rarely do you see him just flat out throw the ball and give his guy a chance to make a play. In a game where the SF defense was very good and they put a fair amount of pressure on him, I feel he needed to take more risk and let some guys try and make a play even if he didn't feel 100% about the throw or their ability to make it. For a decade now, we've been hearing all about "no defense", "Aaron need more play makers", "bad coaching", etc. At what point does the guy taking up 20% of the payroll have to be the guy to get it done? They've been in position with everything to their advantage in the play-off scenario multiple times and consistently come up short. Championships are hard to win and we're spoiled as Packer fans but I think the time for Rodgers being the reason they win a championship is over. Going to be an interesting off-season.

Agreed. Both sides are doing just fine financially. They'll tweak some things and be back on the field shortly I think as well.

I don't care what they come up with. It's all Monopoly money to most of us. I don't care for advertising patches, but really it's just the next step before the teams don't even use the city names anymore. It's coming: American Family Brewers vs Advocate Health Care Cubs. With all the digital type technology, I wouldn't think sponsors care much about uniforms anymore. Can't they just do the rotating logo thing on the TV broadcast or something? Owners to players: You must adhere to the uniform standard Owners in discussion: Hey, what do you think about slapping some cheesy looking advertising patches all over our uniforms so they look like an old school youth bowling shirt for a few extra dollars? Maybe you could get away with making a NASCAR comparison. It'd be way better if the players got the uniform adverting deals and got to slap whatever they wanted on them. Walk up music will be changed to advertising jingles, etc. Anyway, I don't think it'll carry on into the season. Hopefully they're all smart enough not to let that happen.

I think there are probably other teams that would value him more currently. He would give the Brewers some enviable insurance\depth\ super-sub. If you think he can get back to pulling the ball more as he did in 2019 and coax 20 HRs from his high contact approach, he's back to an all-star level. If you think he'd be good with a super-sub role then I'd be willing to entertain the idea of trading for him, though I'm not sure how much he would ultimately affect the regular season win total. For me, I'm acquiring him for the depth and to be a tough out against tough pitching in the playoffs.

Don't over think it. Chubb and JRob should certainly fill your starting roles and have nice matchups, imo. Good luck at TE . I don't love Tua or Parker's situation against the Jet's. If the Dolphins control the game might not be too many passes. I'd probably lean picking up Jimmy G if Jackson is out. Good luck I have a flex WR decision now as Lockett was placed on Covid list. Choosing from Pittman, Julio and recently picked Osborn if Thielen is out. Only playing 8 team league so there are other marginal options available but none obviously better. I should know pretty well by the end of the Thursday game where I stand this week with Ekeler, Williams, Kelce and Hill. I usually try to avoid players where I can on Thursday as it almost always seems to be a sloppily played game. Wish they'd do away with it. Don't have much choice this week. Hopefully it's a 42-35 shootout.

The walk rate is encouraging. It's always fun to dream a bit on a toolsy player with youth on his side yet.

He's probably just a AAAA at this point but he was a guy who seemed to always be buried behind some players in the depth chart early on in Houston and then had a cold stretch on a good team after he had shown some promise. Not too unlike Tellez actually. There are worse hitters getting MLB AB's so hopefully he's got something to offer off the bench or at least some insurance at AAA.

I've tried, and I can't come up with really any legit comparison. There's plenty of guys that have dropped off around age 30, but not really guys that went from MVP numbers to what he has at his age. Between the knee and his back, it's possible that his swing was adjusted to compensate. Of those two, I'm most concerned about the recurring back issues. On a MUCH smaller scale Travis Shaw immediately comes to mind as a guy I thought was going to be a cornerstone, All-star type, everything trending in a positive direction and he completely lost his ability to make contact. Matt Kemp and Justin Upton are a couple others who really fell off around age 30, but neither were doing things that Yelich did. It' SOOO disappointing. I can't bring myself to be upset about the extension because it's mostly what 90% of us would want the Brewers to do. Lock up your prime years MVP star player for the next decade-ish and "build around" and let him be the face of your franchise.

Agree with much of this. Yelich was quite literally the 2nd best bat in the game for 2 years running behind Trout and probably falls into the top 3-4 expanding to 2017. Between injuries and world events, I'm willing to take a shot, even if it seems remote that he can get back there.

You could maaayyybee talk Detroit into a deal. I still believe that Yelich must have not recovered from his knee and then back injuries. Now, if you think that those 2 injuries have caused enough damage to his body that he won't recover from completely and not even be the player he was in Miami then I see your point. I don't think he'd done yet and quite frankly, the organization needs him to not be done. I can't even find a player to compare with who's fallen off so drastically at the same age. Something isn't right and hopefully it's fixable. Even if he's never MVP again, if he can be just an above average bat, the contract isn't bad. I personally would hate to move on from him and then watch him go back to putting up MVP numbers. The JBJ and Yelich situations are too much apples to oranges. I get what you're saying and if you think he's done, I understand the reasoning. I do believe somebody would take the contract I just don't think at the end of the day, even with whatever moves they make after it would necessarily result in an improvement for the future.

I have no idea how to gauge if he just had a career year or if he made sustainable changes but I'm encouraged the change in his plate discipline stats. This past season, Renfroe appears to have swung more often than he has in his career but managed to swing and miss less and make more contact than he has any other year. Also, statcast seems to like his ability to barrel the ball up. Again, not sure if it's just good outlier year and a chance for Boston to sell high or if those changes are real but in a year where players were generally having difficulty making more contact it certainly seem like he maybe made a positive adjustment.

I didn't even realize Dahl was in our system. He's actually been useful vs rhp for his career and young enough to have a tinge of upside yet.

Yup, I agree with the guaranteed contracts and salary cap being largely in the players favor over other sports, so if it was me I'd also come down harder on the players to make some concessions. I don't know what's on the table for discussion or what details they're working on but one of things that has me concerned is the initial years of player control. I don't like when teams' manipulate the system so I think there needs to be some adjustment there but I would hate to see service time of team control dropped by too much. It's really the only way, in the current financial structure with no cap, that the lesser revenue teams are able to complete in a system that allows infinite spending. If the players want to reach FA sooner then I think you have to consider a hard cap and floor. I know it's not a level playing field financially, but there's a part of me that likes it that way because I think it just makes the roster management part of the game so interesting. Despite my interest in that part of the game it's probably better off for the game if they'd even up some of those resources more. I do think they need to reduce the incentive to tank seasons. Look, there's going to be bad teams but you can't be soo bad that you're not really even a competitive team, player-wise. If you are basically fielding a 3/4 A team, that's kind of the opposite of calling yourself a professional team, isn't it?