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Reyes is all that good and he can change the dynamic of games. He'll get 5/100 or more. Fielder is also an injury concern. Guys with his body type don't age well. That's the gamble with FA. How many actually pay off?

Don't believe so, I think you have to pay the buyout for the option and then any arby deal is on top of that. But it's kind of a moot point anyway since New York is paying for the buyout. Not quite a moot point, because if there is no buyout, the Mets are off the hook. Whether that affects how the deal was constructed is unknown. ie, Mets could have sent X amount of cash. If there is no buyout, that's extra money in the deal.

Everything comes into play. The value of the trade to the Brewers is what he is worth. An option that will not vest is not in the equation. Picks can be used create value. Money not paid together with picks means the Brewers can use those picks and select good players, replenishing any talent lost. That's the point of trading. It's not what the other guys gains or gives up so much and what you gain vs. give up.

In which case, picks, cash, and reliever should equal decent return. Part of what makes this so hard to judge is the facts are so murky. The only thing that's clear is that Rodriguez threw one of the most expensive punches in the history of sports.

The vesting option wasn't so significant since any team he would be traded to would not let it vest. Depending on who the NTC listed, he could have more leverage. However, the value of a pretty good reliever, who is paid below market cost because of $6.5 million included, and the opportunity to pick up extra draft picks should net a couple of decent players back. I doubt they're scrubs.

That $17.5 million vesting option is really irrelevant to the discussion. Who care’s how much an option that will never vest costs? The answer in the real world is zero. Apologies if this has already been answered. But when will we know the prospects. Also, why was this done as a PTBNL? Or do we need the answer to the first question to get the second?

Baseball has no legal right to impose slotting or even a draft since this is illegal restraint of trade. The union can bargain that right away, but baseball has to give up something in return.

Reyes early numbers last year got dinged by a thyroid condition, which was a freak reaction to shellfish. Only in 2009 when he had hamstring issues was he hurt. So, I'd expect a rebound this year since he's healthy. The Mets would only move him for real talent and if he were put on the market, there would be a bidding war. He definitely wouldn't be moved for expensive contracts. I think it's likely he resigns with the Mets. They have $50 million in salary coming off the books this year, mostly in dead money. They need him to generate attendance.

The Brewers waited a year too long with Fielder. There's a lot of good young first basemen coming up and the big money teams don't need one. Plus with Howard's contract and Fielder's decline in ops, his value has declined. A year ago, they could have gotten Ike Davis and Mejia from the Mets or Freeman and possibly Teheran from the Braves. Now, neither team looks to be in the market. Tampa has never shown an inclination to take on high salaried players a year from FA. They look to dump these guys, getting good value from Kazmir, among others.

I'm just wondering how people view this deal -- too low? too high? a good starting point? I don't stay as dialed in as others on trade offers, so I'm genuinely curious. Nolasco is a guy I'd love to see the Brewers get. Every board in baseball has a thread on getting Nolasco. The secrets out. He won't come cheap.

Maine at a minimum could be a good setup man if they were worried about his arm. No way he gets non tendered.

Every board has a thread on getting Nolasco. He's not coming for fringe players.

No, the two potential trades would be either Heyward and Hanson, which they don't like. Or Jurrjens, Schafer, and three prospects, presumably below Schafer in value.

For Hayward and Hanson of the Braves? On the Braves board, they said JJ Jurjens, Schafer, and three prospects would get it done. I though Hayward and Hanson might make the Brewers consider. What say you?

Why would the Mets want a guy who put up a 750 ops and would take a ding in Citifield? Maine's value is down, but if he's healthy, he's an effective pitcher for no money.