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I see that Madtown decided to delete his posts about WB West and his cronies on this thread. Come on Bomber - its a free country - even over there in Monona Grove - you've got a right to your opinions.

I see that Madtown decided to delete his posts about WB West and his cronies on this thread. Come on Bomber - its a free country - even over there in Monona Grove - you've got a right to your opinions.

Yes - same style, but Braun has so much power and bat speed because of his big hack that he should be able to keep producing with extra base hits, while looking bad at times. Just a way better talent than Hart. I think he would really benefit from dropping his hands a little and widening out a little, just to cover the whole field and make better contact, but with numbers like his and no pressure from the club to change him, its unlikely.

I'll just do the batting lineup. My key is getting more lefties in the lineup for balance - way to righty oriented this year. This has three lefties in it. 1. SS - Alcedes Escobar (F/A) - has potential at leadoff with good wheels and can play big league SS already 2. 2B - Orlando Hudson - switch hitting second basemen allows for a solid double play combo and consistency up the middle as he can play all the time. Durham or Hall backup. Cut or trade weeks 3. LF - Braun - no brainer 4. 1B - Prince - lets give him his arby money and deal with his 30+ HRs and potential 20+ errors as a trade off for a consistent left handed stick 5. 3B - Hardy - move him to 3rd for a year or two as it should be easy transition - gotta still love him 6. CF - Jimmy Edmonds (F/A) - short term contract and a reliable CF with a left handed stick. Veteran presence in clubhouse. Get rid of Cameron 7. RF - Hart - but a very short leash and I would rather just trade him straight up because he is a liability now at the plate. 8. C - Kendall - veteran behind the plate who handles pitchers well and can legitimately throw out runners - lets exercise his one year option 9. P

Very observant post - I'd like to ad more. Corey Hart had one of the slowest bats I can remember seeing the last two months. He was lunging at the ball with forward movement, which always causes a hitter to start the swing earlier, slows that bat down, and creates an inability to recognize pitches so you swing at balls instead of taking walks or getting good pitches to hit. This all leads to the stat quoted above, and . I believe that he has regressed so far backward with mechanics that he is of little use a the plate anymore until he can change. Since we've seen about three seasons of this approach, there is no reason to believe he can or will change unless the new manager or hitting coach can reach him. I would be willing to give him one more shot because he has had some success, but a VERY SHORT LEASH! I recommend trade, however, if we can get something.

No this post didn't, but he's brutal against UWM in his other posts for reasons that are simply sour grapes. He's constantly fabricating things about their coach and schedule as nobody wants to play them, when in reality their schedule this year is awesome, starting with four games against Arizona State, then Michigan, Jacksonville, and three games at Louisville. All of those other players he mentions are his friends that he went to West Bend East with, and he is getting a lot of his opinions about Hoenecke from the Concordia coaching staff, who are also his friends, and who are upset with him for not going there - believe it or not. I'm just pointing it out for the record because I really don't like what he does and know none of it is sincere and objective.

No this post didn't, but he's brutal against UWM in his other posts for reasons that are simply sour grapes. He's constantly fabricating things about their coach and schedule as nobody wants to play them, when in reality their schedule this year is awesome, starting with four games against Arizona State, then Michigan, Jacksonville, and three games at Louisville. All of those other players he mentions are his friends that he went to West Bend East with, and he is getting a lot of his opinions about Hoenecke from the Concordia coaching staff, who are also his friends, and who are upset with him for not going there - believe it or not. I'm just pointing it out for the record because I really don't like what he does and know none of it is sincere and objective.

I probably am taking them too seriously, but I'm pretty sure that he has a couple of agendas out there, including artificially pumping up his friends with fabrications and exaggerations that most people know really aren't true (other posts). I just wish that he wouldn't go negative on others in an effort to make them look better for no good reason. I mean really, pumping up Olla and Becker (Concordia) like they are prospects that scouts were after - I'm sorry but that doesn't help them or his credibility. I have no problem with a fair evaluation of Hoenecke by you or anyone, and if you think he's got limitations, you wouldn't be the first. I do think he's got all you need to keep advancing, however, great hands in the field, hand-eye, quick bat, and an accurate throwing arm, and think his arm will be fine at the pro level. He is truly a very good player and just gets a lot of hits and makes plays. Anyway, I know that UWM does not have the best field (location and bleachers), but the playing surface is fine and its getting better. Actually, with some bleachers they would probably have one of the better college fields to play on in the state, its just that it gets ripped on because its on Green Bay Ave. Its really in a beautiful park which will soon be right next to a state of the art water park. I won't get into recruiting because sometimes he passes on kids that are written up well and have big numbers, but he knows they won't help him win because they're not good baseball players. He can sniff that out pretty good. Other times he simply isn't going to get the player - period - and recruiting won't make a difference. You have to remember that he is only in his 3rd year now as head coach, even though he has been recruiting for a number of years, so maybe he will do a little more of that just for PR. I really wish that UWM bashing would stop because it noes not help promote baseball in this state whatsoever when kids leave, get run out of almost every D1 program within two years, then have to come back with their tail between their legs having to sit out a full year at UWM. Not everybody - but most. I'd like to see kids stay here right away, but I know that the travel teams rip on UWM all the time too so they can keep their reputation up by getting kids to bigger name programs. Oh well. In regards to the players that left the state, often times they have sour grapes because they think UWM snuffed them by not recruiting, and I'm not saying that the players to which you are referring fall into that category, but I would be curious to know if those guys ever really made an impact at D1 and Scott just completely missed them altogether. My guess is that most of them just weren't able to get it done and Scott knew it right away. Thanks for the heads up on the draft forum.

I probably am taking them too seriously, but I'm pretty sure that he has a couple of agendas out there, including artificially pumping up his friends with fabrications and exaggerations that most people know really aren't true (other posts). I just wish that he wouldn't go negative on others in an effort to make them look better for no good reason. I mean really, pumping up Olla and Becker (Concordia) like they are prospects that scouts were after - I'm sorry but that doesn't help them or his credibility. I have no problem with a fair evaluation of Hoenecke by you or anyone, and if you think he's got limitations, you wouldn't be the first. I do think he's got all you need to keep advancing, however, great hands in the field, hand-eye, quick bat, and an accurate throwing arm, and think his arm will be fine at the pro level. He is truly a very good player and just gets a lot of hits and makes plays. Anyway, I know that UWM does not have the best field (location and bleachers), but the playing surface is fine and its getting better. Actually, with some bleachers they would probably have one of the better college fields to play on in the state, its just that it gets ripped on because its on Green Bay Ave. Its really in a beautiful park which will soon be right next to a state of the art water park. I won't get into recruiting because sometimes he passes on kids that are written up well and have big numbers, but he knows they won't help him win because they're not good baseball players. He can sniff that out pretty good. Other times he simply isn't going to get the player - period - and recruiting won't make a difference. You have to remember that he is only in his 3rd year now as head coach, even though he has been recruiting for a number of years, so maybe he will do a little more of that just for PR. I really wish that UWM bashing would stop because it noes not help promote baseball in this state whatsoever when kids leave, get run out of almost every D1 program within two years, then have to come back with their tail between their legs having to sit out a full year at UWM. Not everybody - but most. I'd like to see kids stay here right away, but I know that the travel teams rip on UWM all the time too so they can keep their reputation up by getting kids to bigger name programs. Oh well. In regards to the players that left the state, often times they have sour grapes because they think UWM snuffed them by not recruiting, and I'm not saying that the players to which you are referring fall into that category, but I would be curious to know if those guys ever really made an impact at D1 and Scott just completely missed them altogether. My guess is that most of them just weren't able to get it done and Scott knew it right away. Thanks for the heads up on the draft forum.

Bomber - I think you're going to have to eat a little crow on your comments here. Hoenecke could have gone to a ton of D1 schools, but committed early to UWM because of a good offer and wanted to stay close to home. Also, he doesn't have to take a back seat to any of those players, even though they were great, and actually had way better numbers and success that everyone on your list except Mike Mueller, including Ryan Rohlinger, who is now in the big leagues. Not that those players weren't great in their own right, because I know all of them and they were, but facts are facts. Hoenecke was also the Journal Sentinel Player of the Year twice, the WBCA player of the year, and OTBPA player of the year. Thats a pretty good concensus. I'm not sure where you get your info, but I hope it is not being regurgitated from one of your Concordia cohorts. Plus, he was the only HS player drafted this year in WI, and you didn't even have him being a prospect or D1 in any of your other posts either. The truth is, he knew he was going to get drafted by the Tigers pretty much already after the Miller Park game, so this was no surprise. My conclusion: Misevaluation or simply and axe to grind. Don't think that's fair to him in spite of your half-hearted "rooting for him". Finally, you have a right to criticize UW-M all you want, but calling them "irrelivent" and stating that they don't have the best players is simply wishful thinking. They may not have any big leaguers yet, but they destroy DIII teams, including Whitewater when they play them. Look at the numbers, I don't think they've ever lost to a DIII team since they've been DI, and their players kick butt over the DIII WIAC players in the summer leagues everywhere they go. Again, just because Concordia has an axe to grind against UWM because their coaches think they should be running the UWM program doesn't make it right to bash them when year after year they finish in the top half of the Horizon League. Its just sour grapes as far as I'm concerned. I think Concordia should try to get into the playoffs in the NAC first before you go on the bash brigade. Didn't they lose their last 10 games last year???

Bomber - I think you're going to have to eat a little crow on your comments here. Hoenecke could have gone to a ton of D1 schools, but committed early to UWM because of a good offer and wanted to stay close to home. Also, he doesn't have to take a back seat to any of those players, even though they were great, and actually had way better numbers and success that everyone on your list except Mike Mueller, including Ryan Rohlinger, who is now in the big leagues. Not that those players weren't great in their own right, because I know all of them and they were, but facts are facts. Hoenecke was also the Journal Sentinel Player of the Year twice, the WBCA player of the year, and OTBPA player of the year. Thats a pretty good concensus. I'm not sure where you get your info, but I hope it is not being regurgitated from one of your Concordia cohorts. Plus, he was the only HS player drafted this year in WI, and you didn't even have him being a prospect or D1 in any of your other posts either. The truth is, he knew he was going to get drafted by the Tigers pretty much already after the Miller Park game, so this was no surprise. My conclusion: Misevaluation or simply and axe to grind. Don't think that's fair to him in spite of your half-hearted "rooting for him". Finally, you have a right to criticize UW-M all you want, but calling them "irrelivent" and stating that they don't have the best players is simply wishful thinking. They may not have any big leaguers yet, but they destroy DIII teams, including Whitewater when they play them. Look at the numbers, I don't think they've ever lost to a DIII team since they've been DI, and their players kick butt over the DIII WIAC players in the summer leagues everywhere they go. Again, just because Concordia has an axe to grind against UWM because their coaches think they should be running the UWM program doesn't make it right to bash them when year after year they finish in the top half of the Horizon League. Its just sour grapes as far as I'm concerned. I think Concordia should try to get into the playoffs in the NAC first before you go on the bash brigade. Didn't they lose their last 10 games last year???