Madtown, I do agree with a lot of what you say about UWM baseball, and I'll be honest I am very impartial in my judgement of them because I know the coaches well and want them to do well. I understand that a lot of coaches do view UWM as a glorified D3 program, and right now thats probably exactly what it is, but I think once they get the ball rolling in the Horizon League and win one or two titles kids from around here realize that there best chance to play in the NCAA tournament might be right at home with UWM. I think they are getting very close to winning a league championship or two with the talent they have right now, if they can get by UIC it might even be this year. Nothing recruits better than a team that wins, right? With all the transfers that UWM brought in this year I really have to disagree with you on Whitewaters class being better, but it is way to close for a D3 vs a D1 program. I agree with you that they have made a lot of dumb mistakes in the past, but nothing would be better for all levels of baseball in Wisconsin than UWM making a nice tournament run wiht some hometown talent, what better way to let people know that we can and do play darn good ball up here. And for the record I hope coaches keep sending kids up to us at Concordia we have put together a nice little team this year.