MrTPlush

Right, but the concept of it being an investment vehicle isn’t really accurate. It is more like a savings account. Not bad if that is your goal. If you are trying to actually invest and grow your money...not so great.

I just read about the $1 a month rate. That definitely is a downer. I read a bit about it and thought it might be a nice secondary way to save up for a vacation or something without really even noticing the money going anywhere. Haha that is really funny as I typed that up as a reason I could see someone using Acorn, but opted to delete it out of my post. Though I thought of an example of $25 a month and saving up for a $2,000 vacation...still would take nearly 7 years to accomplish if that is what your Acorn account was averaging.

Those round up investment apps are a complete and stupid scam. Acorns charges $1 a month if your balance is under $5,000. That is 4% if you are putting in $25 a month. Yikes. Not to mention this really is not going to build you any meaningful wealth anyway. If you really want to maximize returns and actually invest look elsewhere. Acorns is great for people that have no ability to actually save the conventional way. People who like spending and have a hard time putting a big sum at once into savings. Even $25 is hard for some people. However putting in .25 when you spend $10 etc. seems like "oops I dropped a quarter, oh well". That can add up over time though if you have 50+ transactions a month. Suddenly those people can save a little bit.

I agree. Incredibly obnoxious, especially when everyone should just be happy about such an incredible run. By the way, your numbers are way off. His SLG alone is 1.500 for the last 7 games. His OPS is over 2.100. Thanks for the catch, I was trying to refer to SLG.

I’m pretty sure it isn’t absurd to say he wasn’t on pace (really nowhere near) to get to 7 WAR a week ago. Because that is all I was doing. I will wait for you to quote yourself on how you predicted him to OPS like 1.400 this week and get to 7.4.

I wouldn't say that. A lot of people were hoping/expecting his HR total to bump up near 30. He had 18 last year and if they were all at MP he would have had 8 more plus a lot of wall scrappers. Not hard to imagine his HR total being what it is right now...I personally expected him to float around 30 HRs a year with us. That is where a huge majority of his stat bump comes from. What is a little surprising is the .320 average to really juice up his stats. Personally I was expecting about .300 as a safe bet. I had just read the entire thread. Somehow I must have missed your prescient scouting report. I don't recall anyone projecting THESE numbers for Yelich or that he'd be the best bat in the NL. It was well known that MP would give a boost to his numbers. No one took it this far. The only one who should be tooting their own horn is the guy who put him in the MVP race when the trade was made. I would never have guessed he would really compete for the MVP race...but then again I would never have thought the MVP race would be so, average. Yelich is really good, but won't even hit a 7 WAR (just over 6 right now) according to Baseball Reference. Just looking at the last few years: 2018 - 6.1 WAR (Yelich/Baez currently) 2017 - 7.6 WAR 2016 - 7.4 WAR 2015 - 10 WAR (holy...) 2014 - 7.7 WAR 2013 - 7.9 WAR 2012 - 7.6 WAR 2011 - 7.7 WAR 2007 - Jimmy Rollins 6.1 WAR Rollins was a low WAR guy as was Ryan Howard when he won it. That being said I don't know who was voting back then but wow... How did Ryan Howard ever win it over Pujols in 2006 is amazing. It is pretty impressive how low bar was set this year in the NL to be the best. The NL just does not have a Trout/Betts/etc. I don't know how far back one would have to go to find zero NL hitters without a 7+ WAR.

I wouldn't say that. A lot of people were hoping/expecting his HR total to bump up near 30. He had 18 last year and if they were all at MP he would have had 8 more plus a lot of wall scrappers. Not hard to imagine his HR total being what it is right now...I personally expected him to float around 30 HRs a year with us. That is where a huge majority of his stat bump comes from. What is a little surprising is the .320 average to really juice up his stats. Personally I was expecting about .300 as a safe bet. What is most surprising is he still got to these stats despite starting off a little blah with the bat. He had to really turn it on in the second half (insane) to do it. It makes you wonder how good he might be moving forward. If he could hit for more power to RF...whew.

Braun stunk most of September 2008 but had a grand slam walk off in the last home stand and the 8th inning home run against the Cubs in game 162. Braun was great in September 2011, as well as pretty much the whole year. He hit the game winning three run home run in the bottom of the 8th against the Marlins that clinched the division with a few games to play. Also had a walk-off homer against the Rockies in mid-September. No one really remembers that like 2008 because in 2011 we were coasting into the playoffs.

His losses: 8 innings 2 ER 7 innings 1 ER 6 innings 3 ER 6 innings 3 ER 8 innings 2 ER 7 innings 3 ER 8 innings 2 ER 6 innings 1 ER 7 innings 2 ER He has only thrown two games (not including the early May games where something weird must have happened) where it wasn't a QS. They were games 1 and 3 of his season! One was opening day where he went 5 2/3 of one run ball and his third game he gave up 4 runs in 6 innings. Funny enough they won both of those games.

There just hasn't been much love for Yelich. We might get a better picture once writers vote and/or announce how they decided. Looking at Vegas and the limited articles we have seen on the MVP topic Yelich seems to be a bit of a darkhorse. Too bad the Mets suck because I think DeGrom would run away with it if he was on a winning team. That is about the only person I would take over Yelich right now. Personally I think it should go: 1) Yelich 2) DeGrom 3) Goldschmidt 4)Cain 5)Baez Something about picking DeGrom, who pitches under zero pressure, just seems like a big turn off to me.

True, but it's good to learn from mistakes too. A lot of analytics had Yelich pegged for a power surge at Miller Park, and they. Analytics actually didn't peg Yelich for much of a power surge at all. As mentioned his launch angle wasn't all that significant from his swing. Thus simply moving to Miller Park wasn't going to necessarily give him a big power surge. The big power surge was on the assumption he would change his swing to favor Miller Park a bit more. I don't know if that is the reason for his surge or not though.

I liked this trade because there was such little risk on our end. The only way I think for us to have lost this trade is if Lewis Brinson pulled a Ryan Braun and just decided to be an instant AS type player. That would have looked pretty miserable on our end. We made the trade because we knew we were going to have a great roster the next 3-5 years. It seems pretty obvious none of the players we traded will be making an impact anytime soon...if ever. We traded 3 huge risk high reward bats for one already at a AS production level. Since he is controllable 5 years that pretty much allows one of those guys to be incredible and we shouldn't even care. They are lucky if that happens...before the trade and especially now.

We are officially in the longest bull market in American history.

I’d have to imagine that will correct itself. If Corey keeps this up he’ll be top 50 without a doubt In the offseason list. MLB.com already partially overhauled their Top 100 and Monte Harrison survived it.

Lol so Monte Harrison is still a Top 100 guy to them, but Corey Ray isn’t?

Well before the last week I’d say he was probably not as great as they look now. Still really good. A lot of people were hoping he would have a nice breakout moving to Miller Park instead of Marlins Park...then at his age a lot of people are hoping for a nice breakout that way. Now I think he has turned his stats into the best of his career...though not as much as one would have hoped with the parks he plays at now. I guess I don't understand that last part. I expected maybe a few HR bump but certainly not a 30 HR type of guy that will win MVP awards. His numbers were not as great a week ago but still above career norms. I think expectations were too high, he was still selected as an All-Star and rightfully so. There were high expectations. Some thinking he might alter his swing to get more loft. He really hasn’t so the power number didn’t really get aided by Miller Park. Not necessarily my expectations, but a lot of people were calling for 25+ HR.

Well before the last week I’d say he was probably not as great as they look now. Still really good. A lot of people were hoping he would have a nice breakout moving to Miller Park instead of Marlins Park...then at his age a lot of people are hoping for a nice breakout that way. Now I think he has turned his stats into the best of his career...though not as much as one would have hoped with the parks he plays at now.

He has been better of late...but still pretty lackluster.

You aren’t timing the market by saying “there will be a correction in the next few years”. That’s the easy part...the problem is try to get in at or near the bottom. What if it takes another few years and the market soars until then? Any correction probably won’t get it low enough to be where it is now. Makes you better off just getting in now, growing, taking the correction hit, and then still be ahead. You could also wait it out for a correction watching the market keep rising and wait for the correction. When you think it is back on the rise you buy in...but wait, it was only halfway down. Then you lose all the market gain and still take on some of the correction. If one could time the market to any realistic accuracy everyone would do it and people would be swimming in money. The fact is it isn’t. If you are looking at a 20+ year investment it’s smartest to just get the money into the market. Only timing of the market I would recommend is in the event of a big market crash or recession. If you are lucky enough to be in a good financial state at a time like that it could be a wise idea to start putting lots of money into the market. Then again that just being at the right place at the right time...not really timing anything. Timing the market is really just sitting around hoping it sees a correction sooner rather than later and hoping you put (or take out) in your money at the right time.

When it comes to short term investing “for fun” always remember it isn’t a loss until you sell it. I’m not much of a fan of trying to time the market etc. The average person trying to get creative with their market investments isn’t really a wise idea.

Is there any proof getting a bad return in one trade makes you not want to deal with that team again? I’ve got to be honest that makes no sense and I’m not paid a penny to be a GM. You are telling me a million dollar GM is dumber than me? The Marlins are the ones who wanted those players!!!

Your theory says you want to (combined?) save up $1mil for an early retirement at 45? That’s going to be one sad retirement.

This is exactly why I never understand why people freak out when the market drops. What percent of people rely on the day to day fluctuations of the market? .5%, maybe? I guess the media needs to whip people into a frenzy about something for ratings and clicks. People freak out because they don’t really understand the stock market and don’t understand their retirement plan(401k etc). They don’t understand the short term is rather meaningless. Some people check their retirements plans way too often. It is really nothing more than that.

There was a radio interview with WTMJ I believe right(RIGHT) after it happened.

Yelich picked #22 for those curious.