Brewers (Misiorowski) vs Cubs (Brown): 5/19/26, 6:40pm

[StearnsFTW]

22 minutes ago, BruisedCrew said:

There seems to be some tension on the board between the “relentless mopes” and the pompous holier than thous. 

Yes.  There does.  The relentless mopes will never win!

 

Although you guys have driven off some great posters.

[RobertCrawley]

21 minutes ago, StearnsFTW said:

Yes.  There does.  The relentless mopes will never win!

 

Although you guys have driven off some great posters.

[Playing Catch]

1 hour ago, BarremlensTSSC said:

That's particularly true given Ashby's freakish availability rate.  That's not anywhere near normal.

Like, not normal due to what we know about the human body? Or not normal because most teams don't typically use guys they way they use Ashby, because if a team has a guy like Ashby, he's almost never pitching in middle relief?

It's unconventional, yes. But aside from baseball's long-established pitching roles, codified through conventional wisdom, player contracts based on stat-accumulation, video game player designations (CP, SU, RP, SP), and with an assumption that every pitcher experiences the same stress/recovery on their arm every time they throw, why do we assume that the Brewers are babying Miz, and overworking Ashby?

Miz said he had one more inning after the 5th, so that's what Murph gave him. Ashby likes the ball all the time, and the pitching coaches and training staff (perhaps) recognize this and give Murph the go-ahead to use him.

If we can all agree that there is the "right" amount of high-stress pitches over the course of a game, a series, a week, a month, a season, for a starter, or for a closer, why can we not agree that the "right" number of high-stress pitches for a middle reliever may be somewhere in-between?

Last season, Miz threw 129 IP in 28 appearances (27 starts) between AAA and MLB. Uribe threw 75 IP in 75 appearances (19 back-to-back outings), and Ashby threw 66 IP in 43 appearances (3 back-to-back outings).

Ashby is on pace for about 110 IP in about 80 appearances, and has had 3 back-to-back outings. So long as the Brewers keep giving him more days off between appearances as they would a leverage arm, isn't this simply a "Goldilocks" zone of arm usage between a typical starter's workload, and a closer's role?

[BruisedCrew]

56 minutes ago, StearnsFTW said:

Yes.  There does.  The relentless mopes will never win!

 

Although you guys have driven off some great posters.

I respectfully disagree with your classification of me as a relentless mope. 

If my opinions and ways of expressing myself have driven anyone off the board, they must be pretty narrow minded. Especially considering that my volume of posts, especially on in game threads, is relatively low. 

Maybe your problem is that you think people are trying to “win” the board as opposed to simply expressing their opinions, 

 

[Playing Catch]

I think it's fair to just leave the IGT in it's own little place in the Brewerfan world. The IGT is the equivalent of texting friends and family during the game. It's a private conversation in a public forum, and who among us haven't cursed a Murphy move, or Ortiz AB this season in the privacy of our homes and text threads with family/friends during an in-game moment?

I think the IGT folks would make Murph proud of their relentless pursuit of perfection, and I'm guessing the dugout wouldn't call Murph a mope for verbally undressing Greg Jones in the dugout after airmailing his cutoff man.

The IGT "mopes" keep the rest of us with Brewers-sunglasses on, honest with ourselves, and I appreciate them for it. I blame the Cubs, their manager, their CFer, and their fans for sewing discord here in the good place.

[StearnsFTW]

2 hours ago, BruisedCrew said:

I respectfully disagree with your classification of me as a relentless mope. 

If my opinions and ways of expressing myself have driven anyone off the board, they must be pretty narrow minded. Especially considering that my volume of posts, especially on in game threads, is relatively low. 

Maybe your problem is that you think people are trying to “win” the board as opposed to simply expressing their opinions, 

 

I don't have a problem.  I'm still here.  I personally know several people that don't post here anymore because they did have a problem.

 

The game threads are by far my favorite part of this board.  The comedy is non-stop. 

And I apologize for calling you a relentless mope.  That was wrong.  I do think you are very negative in general, but relentless mope is overboard.

 

[Jim French Stepstool]

3 hours ago, BruisedCrew said:

I suspect that the poster who criticized Murphy for removing Ashby to have Patrick face, Conforto did not realize that Conforto was a pinch hitter who was announced only after Ashby was removed.
 

 

Quite possibly. Larger point; criticism of Murphy's BP management last night is off-base whether brought about by being overly emotional or by not paying attention.

[RWeeksFan23]

19 hours ago, adambr2 said:

If we wanted to have a player in our lineup who literally can’t do anything but bunt we could have just kept the old pre-DH NL rules.

let's not discredit him, he can run too!

[RWeeksFan23]

19 hours ago, Bulldogboy said:

Cubs gotta be disappointed with Bregman. Shaw looked better last year.

yeah, the minimal upgrade from shaw to bregman isn't anywhere near worth the contract bregman got.

They could have used those funds better elsewhere... like the pitching staff.