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I can hear it already... Tony La Russa is going to protest the entire series vs. the Dodgers because Randy Wolf's brother Jim is umpiring. Clearly MLB is in on the Brewers cheating now!

Yes, it would be 25

Well, it can only count as one loss so what the heck, have fun Pirates!

Maybe this game (if we don't come back to win it) will serve us well moving forward. Proof that we are not invincible and it will give the coaches plenty of ammunition for the rest of the season.

It's going to be tough to get the Pirates to feel bad for us about any blown calls. They own that department this year I think. Tough inning.

Crud. That was unfortunate. Bear down and find a way out boys!

Big inning coming up here with the big guys set to bat

I think you'll get your wish. Seems to me we'll have Weeks, Gomez and Gamel on the roster and Dillard, De La Cruz and Wilson off by playoff time.

Flipping between our game and Cards game on the Extra Innings Package. Their announcers almost sound defeated as they announce we crushed the Pirates in game 1. Then, they see us up 2-0 in the 1st inning and it's almost as if they are announcing a funeral. I do have to say, they are giving us props though and not making excuses.

I'm sure this is how it felt for the Rockies at the end of 2007. I've never personally seen anything like it. It's almost surreal.

That's a good way to start! Wow.

Awesome series boys! Man, this is fun to watch... let's show Pittsburgh we have completely forgotten how to lose to them!

I'm not going to disagree about some of the bad approaches at the plate. However, this line of thinking has always bothered me. When people say, "If this then it would have been this..." it indicates that they believe that the next action would be exactly the same even though the situation would have been different. This is simply not the case. Each pitch is a new event in a new situation so you never know what the pitcher would have done if the count were different before that pitch. This argument is used all the time in sports for various situations and it just really bothers me... not trying to take it out on you specifically! You are taking it out on me specifically, but it's somewhat deserved. No, you're right, maybe he would have guided the ball over the plate on the next pitch or maybe he wouldn't have. I don't think that events are entirely independent though. If there have been a string of pitches where he's had control issues then it increases the likelihood it would have happened again. Regardless, you take all the way 2-0 in that situation, especially if you're Jonathan Lucroy. I think we agree that the approach is the problem, but to say that we know the results of the at bat after the count would have been 3-0 is the problem. I would not argue that it's statistically likely he walks there but to say, if he would've taken he would've walked is where I don't agree. And you're completely right in saying that not all events are independent, that actually is why my logic makes even more sense. A 3-0 pitch is completely different than a 2-1 pitch and that's what it's not predictable. If the events were truly 100% independent, the count would never matter, nor would the score. It's way more prevalent in football, where fans may say something like, "If we would've scored a TD there, we would've won the game," when there is still time left... no, you would've had the lead and then who knows what the other team would have done now that they are trailing! And finally, I did attack your statement and sorry for making it feel personal. It truly wasn't! http://forum.brewerfan.net/images/smilies/wink.gif

I'm not going to disagree about some of the bad approaches at the plate. However, this line of thinking has always bothered me. When people say, "If this then it would have been this..." it indicates that they believe that the next action would be exactly the same even though the situation would have been different. This is simply not the case. Each pitch is a new event in a new situation so you never know what the pitcher would have done if the count were different before that pitch. This argument is used all the time in sports for various situations and it just really bothers me... not trying to take it out on you specifically!

I think Counsell should be starting at SS in game 1 tomorrow vs Karstens with JHJ at 2B. Yuni really needs at least a game off.

Let's stop feeding the troll with continuing the complacency lines. ;-)

Crap. I guess I need to stop ever talking about our starting pitchers during a game

Yo is in complete control. He should be thinking CG right now. Keep being efficient and throwing strikes

Brewers Top of 5: Fail.

I will admit, I was hoping for the Sunday lineup today. My thinking being, if some regulars are getting a game off either today or 1 of 2 tomorrow, rather today vs a knuckleballer. Guys like that can sometimes start slumps. I hope that isn't the case (and our guys don't seem to have that issue) but I felt like today was a day that guys like Counsell, Lopez and Wilson might actually have some success going up there and just trying to put the ball in play. I'm sure I'm overthinking it though.

Karma for the Mets fans booing K-Rod. You got your new closer in Izzy, be careful what you wish for!

If we can't capitalize here then this will become the most frustrating loss of the year. I could get over blowing the lead but then blowing this opportunity too would push me over the top.

Couldn't ask for much better start here... Ok Kotsay, your usual please.

This one really hurts. I hope it turns out to be a good wake-up call that we're not all the way there yet and doesn't send us the other way. Cards did lose at least.

Unreal... just unreal. If Nyjer was subbed in back in the 7th for JHJ, or even before this inning for that matter, this game is not even close.