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Forest Park, which has an art museum and zoo is pretty nice. Zoo might not be great in the rain, but was raining off and on when we were there and was ok. Should definitely eat at Pappy’s Smokehouse. Awesome ribs and deep fried corn on the cob. Brewery probably a better choice than the park though.

Pulled it out while having Taysom Hill starting and see him go out in the 2nd quarter. Was a nail biter but Deebo did what he did all season for me and I won by 4 points. Picking Deebo in the equivalent of round 5 this year was a stretch but it worked out. My two keepers were Derrick Henry and Kittle, drafted Edwards-Helare and Lamar Jackson before taking Deebo. Got pretty much nothing from those first 4 in the championship. Made a trade for Johnathan Taylor in week 3, but he was a bit of a let down this week as well compared to what he had been doing and his opponent. Penney proved a huge pick up for me for the playoffs as well.

Aaand they are indeed running it up. Good call lol. Thanks, made it to the championship. I'm not a fan of doing the championship on the last week of the year, I guess we'll see what happens.

I was considering Taysom but I think I will roll with Mac. I don't want to risk Huntley against the Rams D, especially with how poor the Ravens offense can be at times. I'm hoping Patriots will run it up on the Jags and that 4 pass performance against the Bills was due to weather. But Mac hasn't been very good lately. I guess it's a gamble no matter what. If the weather looks bad in Boston I think I will pick up Hill.

League does championship in week 18, so in semis. Had Lamar Jackson as my QB, picked up Mac Jones cuz he's playing the Jags. available on the waiver wire is Trey Lance, Tyler Huntley, Ryan Tannehill, Tua, Taysom, Baker and Andy Dalton. I'm planning to stay with Mac, if anyone has reasons why I should pick up someone else let me know.

I'm saying true as that's how I drafted him. I think the only thing that stops Deebo is injury.

Play in a keeper league where we keep two guys and draft normally after that. Drafted Deebo Samuel in the 3rd (normal 5th) this year and immediately regretted it knowing I could have got him later. Feeling a little better about it right now.

I'm happy he showed on time and addressed his issues straight forward. At least I can respect that. I don't really feel he should be that involved in personnel decisions, have some input, fine. But as others have noted, most of the moves and veterans that have been let walk away have been good moves by the front office. They don't need to be second guessed in their personnel decisions imo based on their history.

If he's not in camp day 1 but ends up playing for the Pack this year, I'd like to hear a chorus of boos from Lambeau. Petty? Probably, but it would be good to send him a message that we as fans don't appreciate the charade.

There are certainly plenty here who agree with this but I feel like it is mostly spite and I hope the Packers are smart enough to realize that is not in their best interest. I don't want Love getting the starting job with that in the news every week. I like the Jeudy idea but any team trading for Rodgers is going to go all in with him over the next 3 years and probably want to keep their current team in tact other than maybe sending back their QB for cap purposes. Not everyone plays the perennial long game like the Pack, a lot of teams are just fine with taking a shot knowing they could have a few tough years after it is over. I should have clarified, between trading him or letting him "retire," I'm going with retire if they can't get Jeudy caliber players back. If they're getting draft picks it doesn't matter when they trade him, the draft isn't until spring. And him sitting is better than the chance of him beating the Packers in the playoffs if it came to that. I don't think the return changes much for picks if you wait it out, and you might get a few more teams interested. Ideally he shows up to camp and we can move on, but this episode has tainted my already not stellar view of him. Great football player, complete narcissist. He has had plenty of opportunities to voice his grudge but instead prefers to be a mystery man, I'm over him.

I'd rather see him sit out the season, unless you get some top end talent. The draft picks are the same now or after the season. If you can get Jeudy and/or a couple guys of that caliber, go for it. If not let him sit it out. I agree until camp starts this whole thing has been meaningless. If he shows up then whatever. But if it drags out past camp he is a world class prima donna. He looks like a diva even if he shows and plays this year, I'm over him and Adams too if he goes this route with the Last Dance tweet. Move on and get people in that want to play in Green Bay. They talk about team and the people then publicly overshadow the team every chance they get.

I’m ready for the Love era myself. Not a fan of this drama by Rodgers. Let him retire, trade him after June 1 or let him play, I don’t care. Just quit talking about it in the media. Makes Rodgers look like a primodanna. And it basically looks like a contract negotiation tactic. I’m all for Green Bay playing hard ball.

No matter my feelings on the posts in this thread, I appreciate that I'm forced to not be in an echo chamber. I still have my informed opinion, but I also respect everyone's here, and it has made me respect the opinion of those around me more as well.

I received a BS in a hard science from UW-Eau Claire fifteen years after I graduated high school. Went to UW-Madison right out of high school, but was too immature at the time and only stayed one year. Eau Claire has done some major campus improvements in the last 10 years but was still affordable. Then I did a masters program in engineering at Michigan Tech, which was very high for out of state, but as a graduate student I was able to get the in-state rate. The in-state rate was still more than double what Eau Claire was. I don't know about their salaries, but most professors in my majors were exceptional teachers and people, and I have no doubt could make more in industry. The liberal arts education for the most part was valuable. If for nothing else, than to build relationships with people you normally wouldn't. And the on-campus experience is a must. Even as a non-traditional student I learned the most during the interaction with my classmates. Some might feel university is a waste of time, but it was the best decision I made and put me in a place in life where I love what I do and am well compensated for it. Before I went back I had done construction and factory work. I learned a lot in both, and both have helped me in what I do now, but neither offered the long term growth and stability that I have now. I apologize if this is too far OT.

You don't get the point Reilly is making. The last thing you want to do is introduce Covid-19 to a hospital without being able to identify it. It will spread and some of the most vulnerable happen to be there. If you are saying they have the capability to test but are using resources for a spike that's one thing, though I wouldn't agree. But you are just neglecting the testing part completely.

They could have all the beds in the world for elective procedures, but if they can't test they're not going to do them.

I said this before, but the biggest issue is that they can't test everyone like they need to test. Are the hospitals blaming the 'stay at home' order for this? I don't doubt that. But the reason we have to continue this thing is that the hospital systems don't have the testing capacity that they need. I know this because my wife has to hear this - and deal with it - every single day. Everyday, the big question is about how many people can they test. If they can test more, they can start doing more. And the biggest reason they can't test is that they don't have the supplies to do it. Again, I hear this from my wife everyday. All the hospitals and clinics are prepared for an influx of patients with regard to testing, and the immediate professionals who must treat them. But the capacity to test - after those necessities - is limited. Healthcare professionals are being furloughed because it is not safe for them to do their job. Increase the capacity for testing - for the workers and the patients - and that will change. History has shown that in situations like this, hospitals and clinics are one of the most dangerous places to be. Frankly, you would be insane to send your mother or child or whomever to a hospital without knowing all the professionals involved in your loved ones care was free of COVID. Remember, COVID does not have to display any symptoms. Thus a nurse or doctor - if not tested - could have the virus - and go on to treat dozens of people (many who are sick or vulnerable) in a single day. That's exactly how you get outbreaks. I would also like to add that there are nurses and doctors and other healthcare people who refuse to work without testing. It's a crazy situation. We know a doctor who is working. His wife has undergone chemo a couple of times in the last year - making her extremely vulnerable to COVID. He goes home at night and talks to her between a plastic sheet. He has a room in the basement blocked off from the rest of the house, where he has his computer and TV and bed. He can't risk bringing anything home. COVID would kill his wife. No matter what, I wish everyone well. I'm sorry your wife believes this, but it just isn't true. The reason hospitals and clinics are half empty is because routine appts and elective procedures have been put on hold. It has nothing to do with PPE. This was not part of Evers stay at home order, it was guidance by the CDC and various federal agencies. The goal was to create space, beds, and medical staff for the onslaught of corona virus patients that never came. Also, while I'm at it, I'm sick of hearing medical providers whine about lack of PPE. Why didn't they have a supply on hand for a pandemic, or any other type of emergency? How do you have more information than a hospital administrator? Can you please elaborate how you know this is not true. It sounds like testing is the main point, and I think you missed it.

I'd have to disagree on both above points. This is what happens when we can no longer depend on our federal government to make a coherent plan and be prepared. This is not political, they were poorly prepared and are sending mixed messages throughout this. Also, there is not one manufacturing sight in my area which is closed due to the pandemic. Where I work there are over 100 people in and out of the site daily, no temperature check, no verification they are not ill. And in no way are we essential. They are using that to keep running but it's not accurate.

I wouldn't count loss of demand as shutting down due to the pandemic, because if there was demand I bet they'd stay open. You can rationalize almost anything as essential, and if everyone is so crucial that the wheels fall off in three weeks of them shutting down, we really need to look at our supply chain. I just feel they are putting people at risk, and I do believe it's driven by greed. Three weeks to play catch up on tests and find hot spots would go a long ways to fight this thing imo.

What's really infuriating to me is all the businesses that deem themselves "essential." This will be the reason we will not contain the spread, and lots of people will be harmed or die because businesses care more about the dollar than their workers or public heath in large. I honestly do not know of any manufacturing business in Wisconsin or Michigan which has closed due to Covid-19.

After watching Dozier do the stupid tear thing after he got hits in the NLCS. We are the Brewers. We think of some "stupid thing" to do after hits like it is going out of style. Orlando Arcia dabs about 3 times a year when he hits a homer. Dozier did the dab then tear thing. He was purposely showing up Arcia and looked like a whiny d-bag. I'd rather he go to the Cards or Cubs or something. Not a fan and he stunk last year anyway. I'd rather bet on a 27 yo Schoop rebounding than a washed up Dozier. I'd be a pass on Donaldson as well, unless the market fell through like it did for Moustakas last year. I don't see the point in continuing to play Shaw out of position. A handful of times a month is ok, but Donaldson would be the 3B and Shaw would spend most of the time out of position. Though Shaw looked capable at 2B last year, if they did want to keep that as an option it would make more sense to bring in a LH 2B or 3B. Edit: I'll probably end up eating my words on Dozier. I think it was game 5 he had those hits and made those gestures. Rubbed me the wrong way at the time. Never had an opinion on him before, and if he goes back to a 30 hr player he would be great. I'd have a hard time rooting for him on the Brewers for a while though. If Schoop isn't brought back he probably makes a lot of sense, I'd rather see a LH bat than can play SS though. So I guess Cabrera. I'd rather just stick with Schoop.

After watching Dozier do the stupid tear thing after he got hits in the NLCS I wouldn't want to see him on the Brewers. Seems like a d-bag to me and I'd have a hard time rooting for him. And he looked pretty bad this year.

Don't mean to rehash this, but if you throw 95+ why ever throw anything but high heat to Turner? He hasn't been able to get around on it all year. The long out to center he had was the only one he's hit solid, and it was still just a deep fly out. Until he shows he can catch up to a high fastball that is all he should see from pretty much anyone but Cedeno in our pen. I'm still on the JJ train, but let Knebel handle the 9th for now. They've got the arms in the pen, play the hot hand.

I think Jon Gray would be a good target/break out candidate. Has been pitching at Coors with mixed results and has put together some pretty good runs, along with some really bad stretches, even getting sent down before the all star break. Maybe offer Aguilar and one of our starters like Davies and see if they'd bite. They were starting a SS at 1b against us, and it gives McMahon a little more time.