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Subluxated my left shoulder and then dislocated it completely a few weeks later in high school football. Had a bankart reconstruction but either subluxated or completely dislocated the shoulder about 10-12 more times over the next 25 years. The instability has occurred in multiple directions and under different motions. The effect on my overall proprioception and sense of balance/symmetry has been profound. There's a lot of scar tissue as well. And with all that, there have been times that I felt 100%, just like Jimmy Nelson is saying now. But it was never 100% structurally sound, no matter how good it felt, and that's usually the case with surgeries - especially shoulders, which have very poor success rates compared to, say, torn ACLs or UCLs. Also have a labrum torn in two places in my right shoulder. First had problems with overextending to stock high shelves for years, then tore the back of the labrum whipping a pass to someone behind me, followed by a minor anterior labral tear from lifting weights and then a more serious one from throwing too hard without warming up. I opted against surgery this time because it often doesn't make much difference for shoulders (and sometimes makes it worse). Bottom line, you just have to rehab the heck out of it, keep the rotator cuff as strong and healthy as possible, and hope for the best... but you can never have your original shoulder back, and trying to do the same things you did before will often lead to problems. So I don't know how many shoulder experts there are here, but you better believe there's at least one. Am I reading this correctly - you're saying you're a shoulder expert due to your personal injuries? All of which *aren't* what Nelson had surgery for nor are you working with the minds/experts he's working with. And that doesn't even touch on comparing your body to his in general. Step off your pedestal - you're not a Dr. You're not board certified. You're an ex-patient. The biggest problem in this discussion is people *assuming* those who are backing Nelson are saying he'll be at his 2017 level when literally nobody is saying that. Him being back means he'll be an effective starter, which also means he'll be better than a lot of other starters in that case. Literally nobody is saying he's 100% not going to be injured again moving forward or it's impossible there will be setbacks/flareups. The conversation is about him being ready come the end of March and how ready will that be or will it leak over to April before he can get to 100+ pitches and be deep in games. And all the evidence we have thus far says he's on pace with everyone else. Nelson literally just said a bit ago he was scheduled to have a live BP session next but the team met in the middle with him so they're bumping it up to intrasquad game.

This may have had something to do with the Brewers having an expanded roster for the month he was with them. I think the leash would be significantly longer if he were to be re-signed. Nothing would change. Gio had 5 starts the final month averaging 5 innings per start. 5.2 in 89 pitches 4.2 in 89 6 in 90 4 in 69 (3er) 5 in 74 (won 11-0 and guerra/lyles finished it so no reason to leave gio in) Gio would be a good addition to the team in both the rotation or pen. Another experienced lefty who can help.

1 - zero issues with his shoulder 2 - he's on the same pace and program as every other pitcher in camp 3 - his velocity is better at this point than usually is 4 - he, and the team, have felt great about every pen/live session he's had thus far (20-40 pitches each) 5 - there's 3.5wks until opening day so depending where he slots in the rotation he has 3.5-4wks to finish getting ready It's easy to say there's zero evidence showing anything when you ignore all the evidence. The only difference between his 20 or so pitch, 1 inning performance yesterday in live session compared to what Chacin, Woodruff, Peralta have done thus far is the batters they faced were in a game. But that doesn't matter much right now given Nelson's experience. He's doing one more live session before game action. And if he's not able to get up to 100+ pitches in spring then the Brewers can use April to get him from X number of pitches to Y given how the pen is built. Nelson isn't injured right now. Neither is Davies. Pitchers come back after missing large chunks or full seasons all the time. *Right now* they're healthy. They're no longer injured. They're on the same pace/program as everyone else. Maybe they are injured moving forward but that can literally be said about, and happen to, any player. All that matters is right now they're healthy and they're on the same pace/program as everyone else.

No question. I guess I'll use the word "serviceable." If he can even get back to that level, where he pitches every 5th day and he's serviceable I would consider he's "back." Even with that low bar, I have serious doubts he can return to even that level. Totally disagree with this negative line of thinking. His labrum tear was on The front part of shoulder not the back like all other pitching injuries. Based upon this fact doctors say this injury less devastating To a pitcher And should make a full recovery. He was at 88-91 last sept in instructs. Now 20lbs heavier said he’s throwing harder with movement,breaking ball Sharper in fact he said all his pitches better than ever. I agree with on the black, surprise player of the year YES. It's annoying people continually skip over this fact. His tear was on the *opposite* side of the shoulder pitchers always tear and struggle to come back from. Nelson is clearly on his way back to where he was. There has been zero evidence suggesting otherwise. The only question is whether he'll be ready to throw 90-100 pitches opening day or if it'll take a little longer to do so.

Harper to Phillies has long been the rumor so it's not surprising. Nor is the amount given he turned down 10/300 so you knew it was going to be north of that. Will be interesting to see what happens with Keuchel now

Tatis' looked like Machado's in game 1 of the NLCS. I think it would've gotten out. It might if it's over far enough to the left but I don't think it is. I think it gets upper half of the wall where it severely cuts in

By the time he got his head turned around it was already over the fence. Hedges just hit one that hasn't landed yet too. I was really hopeful that Anderson would figure out his HR issues, but early returns are not looking too promising. Hedges was a bomb. Tatis HR would be a double at Miller Park.

Reed is far from Haniger. All these guys will be AAAA players

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I don't see it with Taylor or Stokes. I think both follow the Michael Reed path. Turang had an excellent AB - very impressive approach for a kid who recently turned 19

Zack Brown starting today and fingers crossed it's Turang filling in for a sick Dubon given the game is on TV. EDIT: puke it's Orf in for Dubon even though Turang was on the travel list today

I see the rotation as locked in at Nelson, Chacin, Davies, Chase, Burnes barring injury or an additional arm acquired. Pen being Hader, Knebel, Jeffress, Claudio, Albers, Woodruff, Guerra. When they roll with 13 arms it's one of Peralta (if not filling in for someone in rotation), Barnes, Williams, Houser at first crack depending how the schedule breaks. Brown, Tomlin, Wahl will pitch at some point as well most likely.

Agree with this perspective. Those 4yrs are what you expect to get from Marwin but his 2017 also shows he possesses the ability to achieve beyond what he's done thus far. Not that it'll happen but it's possible. Whereas Perez doesn't have that ability. The past 3yrs he's slashed 262/294/411/705 (83 wrc+) and that *includes* his 2016. Marwin is definitely better than Perez offensively and even if you remove his 2017 his wrc+ is still 20pts+ higher than Perez. While I was never opposed to targeting Marwin because him and Dubon would have everything covered I'm also hard core against paying him what he wants to be paid because I think he's nothing more than a better Perez. Which is no doubt valuable but not that price-tag valuable, especially when Hiura is up this year and still have the OF in tact next year + Ray. Marwin will literally take Perez's spot as he isn't starting over anyone.

Agree. When you read Nottingham's write-up, independent of his 20/80 grades and system ranking, you'd absolutely think he's in the top 10 in the system and a starting catcher once ready. He's had a wrc+ below 103 *once* in his career between A-AAA. He was 3yrs young for level in AA and that was the year they first broke him down (literally) defensively to start rebuilding him. And his wrc+ was 87 (not good but not horrific given his position and age/level). The Brewers and their AA/AAA managers seem to believe he's definitely a MLB starting catcher based on comments they've made in the past.