i have always been in the, I don't care about stats one bit camp..however, when my dad and I discuss the brewers the first thing I say is...his batting ave, rbis, hrs, or era etc..those might not be the complicated ones, but they are still stats...I'll fully admit, I don't understand some of the stats that are mentioned..id like to understand more.....i have always been they type of guy who says, I watch the game, I can see with my own eyes who is good and who isn't...but thinking about it tonight, its not really the right way to think..because most of the time, i can remember the times when a player was either A. really good, or B. really bad...never the times where the player did so/so..sure, i can tell with my own eyes what player has a good arm, or what player just can't throw to save his life...like the Jenkins thread awhile ago..I can tell Jenkins has a good arm and i can tell that podsednik doesn't...so after my rambling I have no idea if what I wrote makes sense to anyone else...but it does to me