I may be overvaluing what 4 years of a productive yet unspectacular OF (I think he could play CF) might be worth but at least I'm willing to go a different direction and attempt to fix the organization's main problem. Furthermore I never limited my trade options to Aoki, that's a creation of those who can't seem to fathom selling on high Gomez for that type of pitching when we have Schafer to replace him, coupled with the fact that we aren't winning with Gomez/Ramirez/Aoki and won't win with them unless we get better pitching. I think there are an awful lot of people who look very hard for reasons not to do anything, which is something I'm not predisposed to do. We "can't" do this, we can't trade him, we can't, we can't, we can't. Why not? Isn't doing something different better than doing nothing? I say again, if you don't like the idea of trading established players to go after the pitching we desperately need then what's your plan? How do we fix the pitching situation beyond "hoping" that some of our minor league pitchers ascend? My father had an annoying saying that I hated as a kid, but seems spot on in this case, "You can wish in one hand and poop in the other, then see what you get more of..." Peralta doesn't have the control or pure stuff to be a #1, he could be a nice #2, but at some point he has to start ascending from a performance standpoint. Nelson could be a solid #3 and is now getting his feet wet in AAA. Hellweg walks almost as many hitters as he strikes out in AAA so I don't see him as a top of the rotation candidate, Thornburg has struggled going back to last year, Jungmann doesn't have top of the rotation stuff nor does Bradley, and Pena is a bit of an enigma. He was awful after getting blasted in the Futures game last year, started this year very slow, but he's been on fire lately. However, Pena also walks too many hitters. Of all those guys I think Thornburg and Pena are our best bets for #2s, but I'm not going to hold my breath waiting on it either. Just because Jungmann and Bradley were drafted high doesn't mean they are impact pitchers. We need 2 more legitimate #2s with 3+ years of team control to slot with Gallardo and we're a completely different franchise, if we can't find MLB ready-AA guys who fit that mold as trade options, then you go deeper down the chain acquiring as much potential top of the rotation potential as you can. It doesn't have to be Aoki, it doesn't have to be this season, if someone offers impact pitching for one or more of our aging MLB roster take the deal. I don't care of it's Lohse, any of the relievers, Gomez, Aoki, or Ramirez. Just say yes to impact pitching. 2 trades and we could be on a different path as an organization.