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On 2/8/2024 at 5:36 PM, BrewerFan said:

I don't think this will happen. I don't see a reigning Cy Young with Snell's stuff taking a 1 year 35M deal. I would guess he remains unsigned because he was looking for that and then some over 6-7 years and he'll settle in on a deal with a little less guaranteed money and some incentives. So maybe 6 years for 210 with a 7th year vesting option. WAY beyond what we can or would offer.

BUT, if it happened, I don't think it'd just negate itself by trading Williams and Adames. I think that may have been the case with Burnes, but if taken together, the Williams loss becomes far less consequential as you have a deep pen full of power arms...led of course by Uribe, a future closer. And Adames, he's still obviously the best SS, but you've got two guys in-house who can play exceptional defense. You have no idea what you're getting back for Williams and Adames(and I agree, I do not like the Yankees trade). But I also expect Turang to be a better hitter this year. He was so defensive at the end of last year. As if his only goal was to put the ball into play.


I love the idea, I just don't see it being realistic. If you're going to offer a 1-year deal for Snell, I think in this pitching market, you're starting at 40M. So that could be a 2-year deal with a 35 paid in the first year and a 5M buyout for the 2nd. 

I think the bolded part hits the nail on the head. I'd think it'd be structured something like the Hoskins deal. Let's say $30M in '24 and $40M in '25 with a $10M player option buyout. That would make it a 1 yr / $40M deal or a 2 yr / $70M deal. 

Cot's has us with a projected $102.5M opening day payroll. I would assume Adames would have to be traded, which would put us around $90M, and we could clear a few million with guys like Clarke, Haase, and Bauers if necessary. I think they'll hold Williams for now, looking to trade him next offseason or at the deadline this year if they're out of it.

Would Mark and the ownership group be willing to put OD payroll in the $120M range? They've done it in the past, so maybe, especially if Amazon has put them at ease that they'll get their TV money. 

Next year, they'd be at risk for paying Hoskins and Snell, but they really don't have any other salary on the books except for Yelich. Plus, unless they add a no-trade clause, they could flip either of them to a bigger market who would be willing to pay them for one-year deals. The big risk would be both of them getting injured, which would seriously hamper us in '25, but seems pretty unlikely.

I'd call it feasible. I certainly wouldn't count it out on the belief that a bigger market will always step in and outbid us. The Brewers have signed a few of these deals over the years (including Hoskins this year) that people didn't think we could pull off. It's probably out of the payroll range the ownership group wants to be in right now, but for a Cy Young pitcher, Mark & Co might surprise us. 

"The most successful (people) know that performance over the long haul is what counts. If you can seize the day, great. But never forget that there are days yet to come."

 

~Bill Walsh

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Jordan Montgomery would be more of the guy for the brewers to target.  Of course I’m sure he’d probably want 30 million.  And being almost 32 doubt he can take a pillow deal.  Some sort of 100 million dollar deal with a bunch of opt outs.

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