2024 NFL Discussion Thread

[OldSchoolSnapper]

So, thought I heard the Packers were moved to Saturday. That's too bad...wish Washington played before us so we could just give ourselves a bye if we are locked into 7. 

[HarryDoyle]

Atlanta is the second team in as many days to get burned chickening out on the two point conversion.

[adambr2]

Congrats, Packers. Your inability to beat a single elite team in 5 tries is going to earn you a 6th try right off the bat in the playoffs.

And congratulations, Raheem Morris. You handed Tampa Bay the division solely because you don’t know how to manage a clock.

[HarryDoyle]

Does anyone think Dallas can beat Washington without Lamb? Their defense will have to play out of their minds.

[adambr2]

3 minutes ago, HarryDoyle said:

Does anyone think Dallas can beat Washington without Lamb? Their defense will have to play out of their minds.

No. We are the 7. Honestly, might as well rest starters next week. You know Philly will be.

[OldSchoolSnapper]

2 minutes ago, adambr2 said:

Congrats, Packers. Your inability to beat a single elite team in 5 tries is going to earn you a 6th try right off the bat in the playoffs.

And congratulations, Raheem Morris. You handed Tampa Bay the division solely because you don’t know how to manage a clock.

Well, nobody else in the field had to play arguably the top 2 teams 4 times, and oh, by the way, play the other top 3 team, too, while you're at it. 

I guess it's hard for me to be too upset with the Packers losing to teams they are, well, worse than. It's not like we're bumped to 7 because we lost to Jacksonville. 

If it's Philly so be it. If they get killed by Philly they would have ended up losing to whoever in the 2nd round, IF they even got by LA, which, right now, I'm not sure that's any better. 

 

[wOOgiE22]

Going to have to beat Philly, Minnesota or Detroit anyway. Whatever, go into the playoffs and try to steal a couple. 

[adambr2]

1 minute ago, OldSchoolSnapper said:

Well, nobody else in the field had to play arguably the top 2 teams 4 times, and oh, by the way, play the other top 3 team, too, while you're at it. 

I guess it's hard for me to be too upset with the Packers losing to teams they are, well, worse than. It's not like we're bumped to 7 because we lost to Jacksonville. 

If it's Philly so be it. If they get killed by Philly they would have ended up losing to whoever in the 2nd round, IF they even got by LA, which, right now, I'm not sure that's any better. 

 

I’m not saying you should win all of them but if there’s supposedly not this much space between the field you shouldn’t lose ALL of them. 

Losing in the WC round to Philly, whether close or not, would be a disappointing season and step back from last year.

[OldSchoolSnapper]

The Packers really took one playing in this division. Not only the obvious in that you play two 13/14-win teams twice but that also crushed their conference record. 

Kinda stupid when they lost a single game outside their own division yet Washington gets a conference record tiebreaker. 

[OldSchoolSnapper]

7 minutes ago, adambr2 said:

No. We are the 7. Honestly, might as well rest starters next week. You know Philly will be.

People are really sure of guaranteed outcomes tonight. 

Is anyone aware that the Cowboys, at 3-7,  beat them in Washington with Cooper Rush? Much stranger things have happened. I didn't even think Atlanta would be within 10 of them tonight. They're not that great. It's a divisional game. Dallas sucks, but you just never know. 

[adambr2]

2 minutes ago, OldSchoolSnapper said:

The Packers really took one playing in this division. Not only the obvious in that you play two 13/14-win teams twice but that also crushed their conference record. 

Kinda stupid when they lost a single game outside their own division yet Washington gets a conference record tiebreaker. 

Well, the flip side is that Washington has a signature win against Philly. We don’t. That’s the tiebreaker right there.

Win one single game out of five chances against Philly, Detroit and Minnesota and the conference record is a moot point.

[wOOgiE22]

1 minute ago, adambr2 said:

Well, the flip side is that Washington has a signature win against Philly. We don’t. That’s the tiebreaker right there.

Win one single game out of five chances against Philly, Detroit and Minnesota and the conference record is a moot point.

Who would guess that the Bears inability to knock down a ball on a Hail Mary could drop the Packers to a 7. 

[OldSchoolSnapper]

1 minute ago, adambr2 said:

Well, the flip side is that Washington has a signature win against Philly. We don’t. That’s the tiebreaker right there.

Win one single game out of five chances against Philly, Detroit and Minnesota and the conference record is a moot point.

If we're gonna pick random subjective things that aren't even in the actual criteria, they lost to Dallas. I really couldn't care less about being 6 or 7 though. 

Conference record is a dumb tiebreaker if you're going to count divisional opponents that you have to play twice. Just use the record against non divisional opponents. 

[adambr2]

2 minutes ago, OldSchoolSnapper said:

People are really sure of guaranteed outcomes tonight. 

Is anyone aware that the Cowboys, at 3-7,  beat them in Washington with Cooper Rush? Much stranger things have happened. I didn't even think Atlanta would be within 10 of them tonight. They're not that great. It's a divisional game. Dallas sucks, but you just never know. 

Yeah, I am fairly sure of that outcome, just as you are fairly sure that Minnesota will choke in the postseason as you predicted earlier today. 

Dallas is cooked. Did you see how bad Philly smoked them today? Yeah, they did beat them earlier this season, but now that they’ve shut down Lamb for the season, they have absolutely no offensive weapons. 

Maybe they try to play hard for Mike, but unless Washington is benching starters, I’m 90% sure Dallas isn’t putting up much of a fight.

[OldSchoolSnapper]

4 minutes ago, wOOgiE22 said:

Who would guess that the Bears inability to knock down a ball on a Hail Mary could drop the Packers to a 7. 

We both should have lost to the Bears so I'll call it even.

[OldSchoolSnapper]

If the Packers have to play one of the top 3 right away, Philly is the one I want. There's been enough weird crap going on there this year that it's the one that would just make a good story if they crap the bed. I don't like their odds against any of them, but at least give me what seems like the most dysfunctional team. 

[adambr2]

The only game that Philly has lost since September is that 3 point game in Washington where they had Kenny Pickett under center. They have the best running back in the league, a mobile QB, two high end WRs, and a top defense.

I'd agree maybe they aren’t as well coached as the Vikes or Lions, but talent-wise, they’re among the best. I’d feel better about a 3rd dance with Minnesota or Detroit than I do about winning a game in Philadelphia.

[OldSchoolSnapper]

Just now, adambr2 said:

The only game that Philly has lost since September is that 3 point game in Washington where they had Kenny Pickett under center. They have the best running back in the league, a mobile QB, two high end WRs, and a top defense.

I'd agree maybe they aren’t as well coached as the Vikes or Lions, but talent-wise, they’re among the best. I’d feel better about a 3rd dance with Minnesota or Detroit than I do about winning a game in Philadelphia.

Well yeah, lol. Vikings and Lions have lost a combined 4 times, one of them to the other. All three are loaded offensively. Even Darnold is on some MVP pixie dust. 

None of them look great for GB on paper. Barkley will make plays. But the Packers generally haven't been killed by the run this year and for the most part they are solid with mobile QBs. I'd experience exactly 0 level of surprise if they got absolutely shredded by Philly, but, maybe I just don't want to lose a 3rd game to another divisional team. I'll roll the dice with the in-fighting Eagles. 

[adambr2]

I have to think that Green Bay and Washington are going to have the same day and kickoff next week. It wouldn’t be fair to either to know they can just rest starters going into the game.

[wOOgiE22]

Just now, adambr2 said:

I have to think that Green Bay and Washington are going to have the same day and kickoff next week. It wouldn’t be fair to either to know they can just rest starters going into the game.

They both play at noon on Sunday. Announced after the SNF game. 

[OldSchoolSnapper]

I am not so sure the Rams are the break some people think they are. I don't think there is a bad team in the field. Washington has mostly quality losses with the exception of Dallas and Tampa was just hurt all year. It's Atlanta if they make it. 

[adambr2]

8 minutes ago, OldSchoolSnapper said:

Well yeah, lol. Vikings and Lions have lost a combined 4 times, one of them to the other. All three are loaded offensively. Even Darnold is on some MVP pixie dust. 

None of them look great for GB on paper. Barkley will make plays. But the Packers generally haven't been killed by the run this year and for the most part they are solid with mobile QBs. I'd experience exactly 0 level of surprise if they got absolutely shredded by Philly, but, maybe I just don't want to lose a 3rd game to another divisional team. I'll roll the dice with the in-fighting Eagles. 

I have a faint hope that something can happen like last year in the WC round where everything just sort of finally falls into place, they start clicking and Philly is shocked and down 17 at half. In this case I think if you win that you can maybe finally build on that and start figuring out how to win these games and continue going strong. 

I am not holding my breath, though. Being overmatched seems like the more plausible outcome to me. 

[HarryDoyle]

5 hours ago, OldSchoolSnapper said:

I am not so sure the Rams are the break some people think they are. I don't think there is a bad team in the field. Washington has mostly quality losses with the exception of Dallas and Tampa was just hurt all year. It's Atlanta if they make it. 

The Rams aren't a pushover but it's certainly the preferred first round matchup. They're on a five game winning streak but only one of those is a quality win and in the last three struggled to beat the likes of the 49ers, Jets and Cardinals. It also would not be a home field advantage for them as Packer fans would take over Sofi.

[Sixtolezcano]

9 hours ago, adambr2 said:

No. We are the 7. Honestly, might as well rest starters next week. You know Philly will be.

At least rest Alexander another week.

[OldSchoolSnapper]

2 minutes ago, Sixtolezcano said:

At least rest Alexander another week.

I am beginning to wonder if something else is going on with him and he doesn't want to play. I saw someone else mention it here a week ago, but something doesn't smell right. But my unqualified speculative read on it is that he's played his last snap for the Packers already.