OldSchoolSnapper

Someone would have paid Watson a shocking amount of money had they not given him that $11mm. It bought them some time at the table. I'm fully expecting him to sign a longer extension this year.

I am OK with picking up LVN's option. They had to do it by today, so it makes a bit of sense. If he has the season he was going to have last year before getting hurt, which looked to be that of a pretty average+ edge, he's priced out and likely gets a few years elsewhere. I still think it's pretty likely he walks after year 5, but you could do worse than him as a rotational piece/fringe starter on their DL for $13.8 million. I don't think this is an example of sunk cost at all. It's a value decision for a team that doesn't have a lot of splash money laying around. They have been pretty open cutting ties to mediocre bust picks, so I am not really seeing that as a valid critique either. Ted definitely let random guys hang around forever, Gute has been pretty good about sending his mistakes to the street.

Aye, the purpose for teams to buy such insurance would be a lot more likely with deals like the one Pratt just signed. Young player, long contract, where the cost would be fairly low because, wait for it...he is not likely to be catastrophically injured. Yes, it could happen, but that's the type of contract said companies could be profitable with. Getting 20 of those deals and if 2 guys get hurt, it's not a big loss. Likewise, the Brewers can recoup something for fairly low cost if he is hurt in year 2 of his 8-year deal. That's the kind of scenario where you get insurance, a low cost to protect against a disaster not likely to occur. Not for 1-yr deal on a guy very likely to get hurt so you can spend more money.

Without context you'd think the Brewers are down 8-0 and Woodruff gave up a grand slam. Never change, IGTs

For Brandon Woodruff, no I don't, or the premium would be so high that the Brewers wouldn't take it on.

What company would have insured Brandon Woodruff's contract? They'd lose their shirt on the premium.

Everything about this game lines up; later year than I thought, but wouldn't shock me. My Dad was with me, and it would have had to be a Sunday (which this game was), and I presume also a bobblehead day. I thought the guy was throwing even considerably slower than Young did, but even the score is about what I would have guessed. Like 90% certain this is the game.

I went to a Brewers game in what I want to say was the early 2000s, possibly late 90s but I don't think so. I know they lost, and I think it was against the Angels, but not positive. I remember the opposing SP taking a no hitter very late into the game, maybe as late as the 8th or so. And I remember him throwing SLOW all day. I could swear he had a few dip into the 50s. It's driven me nuts over the years not remembering who it was.

I get what you're saying but just to point out that the mandatory 4-year contract is a big difference between the 7th and UDFAs. If the guy makes the team and especially if he becomes a starter, that's a huge difference.

Giannis could come out and shut this down if he wanted to. He could get in front of any microphone and say "I am not leaving. This is where I want to be. I don't want to be traded and that's the end of it." But he doesn't do that. He invites the speculation and then drops ambiguous lines about it "I'm here...as long as we compete for championships." For the record, I think the latter is more than fair. But *****. Stop. Talking. About. It. I think his dream is continuing to win in Milwaukee. I don't think it can be done. Too much cap hell, years of roster management kicked down the road, etc. You either just ride him until FA because you're Milwaukee or trade him now. My Bucks tragedy will never be that the 2021 was their last title. It's that they didn't win at least one BEFORE then, because things started to slide right after that. They were definitely good enough to do it in 2019 and 2020, probably 2022.

Anders went 34/40 and 6/8 from 50+ in the NFL and is kicking for the Birmingham Stallions. Extra points did him in. Made them at the same clip of 85%, atrocious.

It's easy to look average next to Trent Williams and I fear that is exactly what happened. The 49ers fans were content letting him go. Sometimes, a signing at which the masses laugh, does end up just being a really bad signing. That said, lots of lines have a mediocre guard if the rest of it is solidified. We paid him way too much, and I think he is almost a guarantee to be cut next spring. Burton will replace him (played more snaps at guard than center in college) or Rhyan will go back to G.

They paid him a $1m roster bonus in March so I figured he was 100% their kicker. I can't really imagine they drafted a K in the 6th to cut him. Maybe they trade McManus when someone else has a kicking disaster in at the end of the preseason, provided Smack is Smacking it.

Hated that trade at the time. I didn't care about Collins or Durbin, but Mears was extremely dependable.

This seems to be the Brewers every year until about June. I just condition myself every year not to worry until July 4th or so. But eventually there's gotta be a year they don't figure it out.

It literally does mean something. It means exactly what I said. That their first round pick has not contributed on the field in any meaningful way through the first 2 years of the cheapest contract he will ever sign. That is significant for what's intended to be contending team that claims it's in "win now" mode, and I'm sorry buddy, but no matter how many times you repeat it means nothing or zero or zilch, it doesn't make you correct or the authority on what meaningful is. And by the way, moving him around to a position he isn't good at is part of the development process, it was bad coaching, and a waste of his time. It's great that the Packers love versitile OL, but it's ok sometimes to just let a guy play at the position he's, you know, actually used to playing. Just like their Jenkins to C brilliance, it didn't work. That's part of developing your players. And for the record, the rankings I cited were never based on rushing or passing totals, they were composite advanced metrics on pass and rush blocking. I don't know how else to get this through your head, but it was an example used to illustrate a very simple concept: historically, the Packers have done a lot more with less investment on their OL. They have a long established history of having a good OL without a lot of assets invested in it. I can give you a lot of examples of that but you'd call it subjective. Right now, they have expensive assets tied up in a group that isn't very good at all. I find this runaround funny because it started with you claiming I was subjective when only one of us has used ANY actual data and that wasn't you. You're the one giving lectures on the definition of meaningful, which is as subjective as it gets.

They had no first round pick and 52nd overall was their first selection. I don't think anything they did was going to be "impressive," at least not in the immediate aftermath.

The right side of the their line and the center are average enough or better. Not so sure Banks is a starter quality player even though the Packers paid him to be one. He might be, and it's a testament to how bad line play has become. As of right now, his signing was a bad one. I would probably agree that Morgan won't be worse than Walker, mostly because Walker was atrocious last season and it's a little disturbing to me that it wasn't obvious to them from day one that Morgan should have been in there. Is Morgan a bust? Idk. He's a huge question mark though at an extremely important position and that they did nothing to solidify it makes me think he's coming along just fine. He can have a bright future and be a bad pick as of this moment. There's no ROI through 2 years on a first round pick, at a position they are weak. It's not like Rodgers sitting behind Favre for 3 years.

Really like the Jackson pick. Elite speed and just a nice strong build. Good sleeper.

He can play guard. He's a very Packer depth OL.

I don't think any of the picks mean the end of anyone. It's never a bad thing to have rotational DL and competitions for snaps. I mean yeah, LVN's days are numbered, but linemen are just something you never have enough of. I don't know what leverage LVN could have on anybody. He's done nothing. They have to be very confident that Jordan Morgan is fine, though.

Yeah, sorry, but no. It means a ton. It's a high value asset that provided 0 return for 2 years. That's not meaningless. When you use a first round pick on a guy who hasn't played for half of the cheapest contract he's ever going to have, that's a bad pick as of the summer before his third season. I literally said "his journey isn't over yet" before you even jumped into the conversation. This isn't a controversial take. I am basing it on much more than my own opinion and thoughts but you are choosing to be obtuse. I told you they were ranked in the top 1/3 of the league that year, with less investment which I documented for you, than last year's group which was considerably more expensive and ranked below 20th in rushing and passing. None of that is opinion. I'm shocked it's even remotely hot to suggest they've done a bad job developing their OL. The drafting has been mediocre to bad. The coaching which allegedly had guys playing the wrong position, has been bad and a waste of time for several of the guys. The one free agent splash was bad. It's all been pretty bad.

If he isn't playing this season, he blew out a knee or was an embarrassment. They have nothing there. I suppose another scenario is they find a gem today or off the street. Everyone knows that two starting corners is a bit of a joke anyway. Three of them are effectively starters.

May not have a choice in that room. If he's an average NFL player it's entirely possible he outplays every corner they have at the moment. One injury and he's automatically getting significant time. I am not sure they win the Super Bowl without Sam Shields as a UDA his rookie year.

Yeah, that is the one saving grace. I actually have more confidence in him bolstering their offensive line this weekend. Probably don't want him looking for first round Ts anymore.