8/04/07 - Phillies (Hamels) @ Brewers (Bush) - 6:05pm

[brewers19]

Braun is disgusting, ...in a good way.

[giffted1]

Well Braun is putting together a nice game. Unfortunately I can't say the same for the rest of our offense.

[adambr2]

Hamels has a 3.51 ERA this year, his FIP is 4.07. He is not a pitcher that is so dominant we cannot score on, this game is not anywhere near over.

 

Would love to see it, but how many games this season have we actually recovered from more than 3 runs down in a winning effort?

[jloos19]

The Brewers just need to cut their losses and DFA Bush.

 

That is just such a ridiculous statement it's not even worth discussing.

[The Ignitor]

Bush has too much value to DFA. He's proven to be decent out of the bullpen. Probably has decent trade value.

 

Now let's get some runs. And it starts with Billy getting on base somehow.

[MoneyballMan]

I've been pointing out the issue with our starting pitchers since the beginning of the year. Everyone seems to believe we have a "great" rotation, when in fact it's very average. AND, you could believe that our two best starters right now may just be Gallardo and Parra, neither of whom figured in the rotation at the beginning of the year.

Original rotation career stats (through what they've done this year):

Sheets - 71-73 3.79 ERA
Capuano - 42-44 4.31 ERA
Suppan - 114-110 4.63 ERA
Bush - 31-34 4.41 ERA
Vargas - 41-35 4.90 ERA

I still believe we just have to hope for that "next step" and an 82-80 record or better this year.

EDIT: Based on a couple of other posts, let me also point out that I'm NOT an advocate for wholescale change either. Just pointing out that it's questionable whether or not this team is ready to reach the playoffs this year. I'm still hopeful!!

[MoneyballMan]

Hall's looking almost as bad as Weeks lately.

[JET15]

Hall's looking almost as bad as Weeks lately.

 

Bill S just said he was 0 for his last 15. http://static.yuku.com/v2//domainskins/bypass/img/smileys/eek.gif

[The Ignitor]

Can't get back in the game without baserunners, fellas.

[MoneyballMan]

And I guess if we still had the Counsell/Graffy platoon at 3B, Hamels would have a no-no going at the moment!

[The Ignitor]

And that inevitable parade of K's begins...

[MoneyballMan]

I can hardly watch this.

[brettac1]

Bush has too much value to DFA. He's proven to be decent out of the bullpen.

 

Not to mention that he's a good starter. Why would he be put in the pen? Because he's giving up runs to the best offense in the NL?

 

I seriously cannot believe that the idea of him being DFA'd is even being discussed here. It almost makes me sad that it has gotten to that level.

[The Ignitor]

I can still watch, cause I believe 2 things: 1) We will win tomorrow to take the series; 2) Glavine will get #300 tomorrow. Therefore, by tomorrow night we will be in the same position we were at the beginning of this game. Plus, I really believe this team is about to turn it around. It's unfortunate we had to face their ace tonight, or I think we might have really started a nice win streak after last night.

[The Ignitor]

That's that point brettac1. It's silly to DFA him. One person said it, and the rest of us have rejected it as crazy talk.

[MoneyballMan]

Schroeder: "You wonder how much breaking his routine hurt Bush". Give me a break. Although I'm sure it sounds pretty good to most fans who don't question anything.

[phatmatt1215]

I say silly/dumb things when I am angry at pitchers that should be better than they are showing

[SlideBernieSlide]

I can still watch, cause I believe 2 things: 1) We will win tomorrow to take the series; 2) Glavine will get #300 tomorrow. Therefore, by tomorrow night we will be in the same position we were at the beginning of this game.

I like this thinking and agree. Just take the series. Plus the Brewers don't sweep teams. Thats just not their style. Heck I can't remember any sweeps since the Nationals in early May? Nonetheless, Hamels vs. Bush thats a tough match-up. Probably 20-80 percent of winning going in. We all knew that. Bush needed to be perfect and he knew that going in. So I'd say Bushy likely pressed a bit much trying to be too fine.

 

Shouse is unreal nowadays.

[giffted1]

And Shouse strands another inherited runner...I think the rest of the staff should pitch in and buy him something nice.

[brettac1]

Schroeder: "You wonder how much breaking his routine hurt Bush". Give me a break. Although I'm sure it sounds pretty good to most fans who don't question anything.

 

He had issues with it last year, as well. He does struggle historically when breaking routine. That could be why he was terrible out of the pen last season.

[The Ignitor]

Bunt please...

[The Ignitor]

Or that works!

[jloos19]

I like this thinking and agree. Just take the series. Plus the Brewers don't sweep teams. Thats just not their style. Heck I can't remember any sweeps since the Nationals in early May?

 

First off, they swept San Francisco and Houston in mid-June. Second of all, it's very difficult to sweep a Major League baseball team. Saying that sweeping a team isn't our style is like saying that pitching 1-hitters isn't really our style. We've got 6 (I think?) sweeps so far this year, which is a ton for early August.

[The Ignitor]

Please no K...

[brewers19]

Hart is kinda pathetic tonight.