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  • The Craig Counsell Situation is Coming to a Head


    Matthew Trueblood

    On Wednesday, news broke that the New York Mets obtained permission to interview Craig Counsell for their managerial vacancy, even before his contract officially expires next week. One way or another, this thing is about to ratchet up a notch.

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    It's no surprise to anyone that the Mets, having so recently officially hired David Stearns to run their baseball operations department, are interested in Craig Counsell. According to reporting by The Athletic, the Cleveland Guardians are at least feeling out Counsell, as well. It sounds odd to suggest that Counsell would even ponder a move to such a small-market alternative, without the same bonds of geography and personal history that tie him to Milwaukee, but Cleveland is trying to replace Terry Francona, who was making more than $500,000 more than Counsell has been getting.

    That, increasingly, seems to be the peg around which this story spins. Counsell not only wants to be one of the highest-paid managers of the game, but hopes to shape (or maybe even rescue) managerial salaries for the future. The game has trended so strongly toward front offices domineering their skippers that Counsell might reasonably view himself as the last bulwark against the invasion of the dugout by the executive suite. Then again, he could even garner some notice from teams trying to fill one of those front-office jobs--most notably, the Marlins, an organization with whom he might have a nostalgic connection.

    No one has yet linked Counsell to the likely managerial opening in Houston, where Dusty Baker might be set to retire. If this goes on long enough, that will change. The Padres are considering internal candidates Ryan Flaherty and Mike Shildt, but they might yet expand their search to include Counsell. These aren't just a sufficient number of openings; they're precisely the right ones. Whether it's a noble and magnanimous purpose that drives Counsell to seek a bigger payday, or whether he just wants to be compensated the way he's earned the right to be, he's in position to land a big salary and some unusual measure of influence or control.

    That gives this whole, formerly complicated mess a cathartic new clarity. The Brewers are going to have to pony up, if they want to keep Counsell. In all likelihood, though, there is some price (perhaps both a monetary and a non-monetary one, but some price) at which they can keep him. That shifts the spotlight to Mark Attanasio and Matt Arnold. They have to decide how far they're willing to go to keep baseball's best manager in their employ, and what line they won't cross. 

    Should Counsell move on, the team needs to identify some potential replacements, and do it quickly. Pat Murphy would probably follow Counsell to a new destination, so there's no obvious alternative on the team's existing depth chart. Andy Green of the Cubs is interviewing for the Cleveland job. If he doesn't get that, he could be a fit with Milwaukee. So could fired ex-Giants manager Gabe Kapler. (For various reasons, some of them very legitimate, fans might have misgivings about Kapler, but he's had a modicum of success with two teams whose front offices related to him the way Arnold seems to want to relate to his manager.)

    Stephen Vogt will interview for the Cleveland job. DeMarlo Hale has been Francona's right-hand man in Cleveland the last several years, and is at least as qualified as Green, Kapler, or Vogt. Alyssa Nakken interviewed for the Giants job before it went to Bob Melvin, and has proved an adroit member of San Francisco's staff over the last few years. Joe Espada might shake loose from the Houston staff, if Baker does retire and if Espada doesn't get that job. 

    All of these are credible candidates, and there are plenty more who aren't as famous or familiar, but who could be just as good. The thing is, none of them are Counsell. If the Mets don't deliver the Godfather offer, the Brewers should step up and pay Counsell what it takes to retain him.

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    If it's money pay the man.  It's likely something else if CC leaves us.

    I think both sides want it settled soon, if he leaves the Brewers need to get in the mix and get their guy.

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    18 hours ago, Matthew Trueblood said:

    These aren't just a sufficient number of openings; they're precisely the right ones. Whether it's a noble and magnanimous purpose that drives Counsell to seek a bigger payday, or whether he just wants to be compensated the way he's earned the right to be, he's in position to land a big salary and some unusual measure of influence or control.

     

    OR, he just wants a new opportunity; a new organization; and the familiar face of an old friend and colleague makes the thought exercise and opportunity all the more appealing. It's a challenge first and foremost by my eyes and a massively bigger spending budget to meet the post season rigors. Getting paid more handsomely and tilting the balance is a flower in the bouquet. I personally think it is something more along the lines of this. And, who really knows? 

    And, I've mentioned this in a couple other threads on this forum:

    If Counsell does indeed choose by his own volition to go to another organization - the Mets or elsewhere for whatever litany of reasons he's certainly earned the right - should the Brewers go internal they should absolutely seriously consider Victor Estévez. He is absolutely fantastic and aggressive in all the right ways. He was a former MLB player (Diamondbacks) so he knows the grind. He's bi-lingual. He has worked the DSL and the Winter Leagues. He took Carolina to the post-season in just his second year leading that club after the longest drought in all the Minor Leagues. I absolutely love him. He's a prized jewel by my obsessive Minor League watching eyes. The organization would be silly to not, in the very least, involve him in the interviewing process. 

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    Hopefully CC will give the Brewers the option to beat the best offer from whichever team he decides he wants to go to - be it the Mets, Guardians, Astros, etc.

    I don't think he will - Attanasio lost his chance to just ask CC what it would take to keep him and pay him.  If CC wants 5 years/$40 million Attanasio should have done it rather than nickel and dime him like they did with Burnes during arbitration last off-season.   Now it could cost the Brewers more than CC wanted.

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    1 hour ago, blueboy714 said:

    Hopefully CC will give the Brewers the option to beat the best offer from whichever team he decides he wants to go to - be it the Mets, Guardians, Astros, etc.

    I don't think he will - Attanasio lost his chance to just ask CC what it would take to keep him and pay him.  If CC wants 5 years/$40 million Attanasio should have done it rather than nickel and dime him like they did with Burnes during arbitration last off-season.   Now it could cost the Brewers more than CC wanted.

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