nearly everyone here thought the Pirates gave up way too much. Also, when a thread asked if anyone was willing to give up Hiura to get Archer the first 19 responses ranged from "No" to "Absolutely not". So yes, some people wanted Archer. No, they weren't willing to empty the farm for him. I said nothing about Hiura. I said nothing about emptying the farm, but instead said an "excessive cost to our farm." That is far from "emptying" it. Are you saying that no one here was on board with acquiring Archer? Maybe a visit to the "Archer" general thread would dispel that notion.