I think you missed the point here... First, Melvin didn't draft any of the players you mentioned, Z did, and he's just as responsible for the pitching issues as Melvin is. Second, I've been very specific about who/when trade wise, and I've been very consistent on those points over the last 2 years. I was widely ridiculed for being against the Sabathia trade and the same goes for Hardy when I wanted him traded for pitching. I find the notion that Melvin didn't make any moves because the price was too high to be wishful thinking, he didn't make moves because he doesn't make those types of trades. My take on Overbay is revisionist in nature, but I was questioning that move by the middle of the next season. Initially I was like everyone else... "look at all the high draft picks we got for Overbay, sweet deal". Then I started to get into pitching, reading about it, listening to audio interviews about it, and then when I saw how uninspiring Bush and Jackson were on the mound I was in the "this is it?" camp. I do like Bush, I've said many times if we could put his head on Parra's body we'd have ourselves a Sabathia, but he's getting the most out of what he has. I guess the best way I can put it is that I thought we were getting pitchers like Sheets/Nuegy, with that sort of upside just because of where the guys were drafted, but instead we ended up with guys who were #3s as an absolute best case and more realistically back of the rotation starters. I don't have anything against either of those 2 pitchers or Gross, while they filled a need in that pitching is always a need, we already had a bunch of 3,4,5 starters hanging around at the time, we needed more than Bush's upside. Marcum was right there, similar MLB experience at the time, always threw harder and had more upside. Why not him? Why not make a run at McGowan who had true top of the rotation stuff? We gave up O and young pitcher in Taubenheim, at the time that would have been a very fair deal for either young Toronto pitcher that I mentioned. I'm not cherry picking moves, I'm simply pointing out that Melvin only needed to make 2 moves for good pitching in the last 6 years that worked out and we'd be much better off than we are today, but he didn't. I'd feel better if he had even made a single attempt, and no Capellan was not a top of the rotation starter, he never had that kind of potential, and there's no way ATL was going to be stupid enough to trade a top of the rotation starter for a struggling closer, they don't make those kind NYM mistakes. I'll never be in the "he did the best he could" camp because he's the one who created this mess in the first place. The system didn't have enough pitching, he wouldn't trade for quality pitching with any sort of longevity so he backed himself into the corner of FA pitching, and it's a terrible market for a team like Milwaukee. How about also focusing on the trade that should NOT have been made? Doug Davis and Dana Eveland for Johnny Estrada and Claudio Vargas. That trade, in retrospect, didn't work out. Imagine having Sharpie's average of 31 starts, 4.22 ERA from 2007-2009. Dave Bush was not a bad pickup, either. He's probably a 4/5 starter, so a 4.86 ERA from 2006-2009 is not bad, especially with the offense the Brewers have. Zach Jackson did not pan out, but he did help the Brewers land CC Sabathia in 2008 (which led to drafting Heckathorn). Gabe Gross got the Brewers Josh Butler, who might be an option as a back-of-the rotation starter. If Butler can put up average numbers like Bush's and only cost $400K, it's a nice pickup. Could the Overbay trade have been better? Yes but it was not a bad trade. The Brewers have, as of today, two 4/5 starters, one who will only be paid the minimum if he makes Milwaukee (and Butler was in AAA last year), and a prospect in Heckathorn to date. The other Sabathia comp pick (Cameron Garfield or Max Walla) could either be in Milwaukee or a component in a trade to bring in a pitcher - as somebody named Matt LaPorta was.