but the rule stands: people who throw 95+ are far more likely to become "great" pitchers than those who don't. You mean like Brien Taylor and Todd Van Poppel? Or any number of other flamethrowers who blew out their arms? And how many hard throwers can you name that had horrible control and learned to harness it later? Ryan and Johnson are easy, but after that it's a pretty slim lot. And defining those great pitchers solely on their fastball is doing them a serious disservice. All of them have pitches as good as, or better in most cases, then their fastball. That's what makes them great. And they all know how to pitch. You act like it's just a simple case of rearing back and letting it fly. If it was that simple, Bobby Witt would have been in the Hall of Fame years ago. And Paul Wilson threw 95+ before he tore his labrum in 1996. He actualy went on the DL in June of 96 with shoulder tendinitis, and it was only found out at the end of the season that he had torn the labrum and required surgery. That might have something to do with he mediocre numbers. He pitched 26 innings in 97 due to injury, 57 in 98 due to injury, and 99 he was out of baseball. Now instead of having a 95+ mph fastball and a plus slider, he's a finese pitcher that can barely hit 90 mph. Velocity certainly helps, but it's not the end all be all when it comes to dominating pitchers. I wouldn't even be suprised if players who top 95 mph have a greater chance of injury, thus reducing their chances of greatness even further. Their is just far to many things to judge to put so much weight on one solitary number.