I have kept my complaining about Betencourt in one thread, this thread. What gets tired is being told what kind of fan I'm supposed to be. Or being told to 'accept' that we have a terrible shortstop. No, I don't accept that. I'm not rampaging through the forum (or .........'raging') about Betencourt being our shortstop. it's in THIS thread, the thread that's about Betencourt. I don't see why that's so offensive to your sensibilities. I love the 'me angry, must keep typing' nonsense. As many times as the Betencourt detractors have complained about him, you and others have just as many times came right back and defended him, but that's ok? It's not like the Betencourt detractors are making things up when we cite statistics and scouting reports that all point to the fact that the guy sucks. If that's 'angry', I'd hate to see REALLY angry in your opinion. This is a FORUM, where people will discuss and even debate, and sometimes debates become heated. I haven't seen any name calling here or derogatory remarks (except yours, your 'me angry' nonsense). As much as people complain about Betencourt, I see COMPLAINING about dissenting opinions. Me personally? I don't want to post on a forum where everyone just consents that we're all fans of a team, and never complain about anything. "That guy's good!" "Quite right!" "I agree!" "Indeed!" "Oh yes!" Yeah, that sounds fun. It's "angry" when it's brought up on a daily basis. It's angry when we're told to ignore any positive defensive stat because it's early but we should take a low BA in the same amount of time to crucify his offense. It's "angry" that when any poster points out anything positive about Betancourt that it brings 10 posters out of the woodwork. It's angry when people say "he sucks" or he's "the worst ever" on a daily basis. That's completely over the top and not backed statistically. I have no problem with statistical analysis that shows that a player is deficient in some way and clearly Betancourt is. But what are deficiencies in one area (low OBP, doesn't work counts, etc.) can actually in certain situations (man on 3rd, less than 2 outs) be positives because that player puts the ball in play (as he did twice in last night's game), and gets the runner in from 3rd at a high percentage.