Bill - I was thinking the same thing about the scouting meeting. I guess people really do disagree. We can hash it out at FanFest. I'll bring the chairs. http://forum.brewerfan.net/images/smilies/smile.gif But he didn't hit much below the league average and it was a very small sample. It takes even good hitters some time to get acclimated to wood bats. But, he still hit below the league average, and if it takes him some time to adapt to wood bats, where does that leave his development? For instance, both Fielder and Hardy both hit well with wood before being drafted, and they were high school players. If it might take a guy like Braun 3-4 years to get to the bigs, would it really be as good an investment instead of either Zimmerman (who might get there in under 2 years), or Maybin (who might get there in 4-5, but with higher potential)? There's no reason to expect that he'll be unable to do the same with wood... it's guys that don't make solid contact that get helped the most by metal, IMO. In my opinion, guys that don't hit well with wood, or at least league average with wood in their first exposure, shouldn't go #5 if they are a college guy. I think there is enough reason to expect he'll struggle with wood, maybe not right away, but once he gets to AA or so. He might indeed have to cut down on that, but I don't think that's a big deal. He has been able to adjust to pitchers that change speeds very well in college, and his strong wrists and great bat speed make me think that his success isn't just a product of titanium. I want to call you out a little on this - I don't think you can compare college pitching and metal bats with AA pitching and wood bats. The wrist motion counteracts his hand speed, which I will fully admit it excellent. If you were confident that you could change his swing quickly and easily so that he didn't have that extra movement and that his swing was none the worse for it, I'd go for him. However, as much as I like Reid Nichols and his staff... I'd prefer someone with excellent mechanics and results I'd prefer someone who either has excellent mechanics and results right now or is young enough to be worked into having excellent mechanics and results. To me, that's either Zimmerman or Maybin, assuming Gordon isn't available, talking strictly hitters. Braun falls too much in the middle for my tastes. Like I said, if we were drafting at #10, sure, I'd take a flier on him. I agree, but I don't buy the "he can't play third" line. Looking at him in his brief scouting video, he looks decent at third, but his footwork is a little tricky. His arm is good, but if the Brewers already think, for whatever reason, that he'll have to be moved, he has little value to me as a #5 left fielder. Perhaps, but I have more faith in his defensive ability. He played shortstop at Miami for two years... Corey Hart or Brad Nelson he's not. To counterpoint, Nelson was a third baseman and Hart was a shortstop in HS. I know it isn't the same as Miami, but it's not like Braun has been flawless, or even in Zimmerman's league, there. And now both Hart and Nelson have been struggling to learn new positions. I think it is a salient point that defensive proficiency aids development almost much as offensive proficiency. If you don't know where you are playing, or are not comfortable there, it will carry over to the plate. If the Brewers all the sudden decide to switch him to the OF next year, it will affect him, not to mention lessen his value even with the same bat. I don't think the Brewers could have avoided what they did with Nelson (who would have thought they would have drafted Fielder?), but they have screwed Hart. He was a great defensive first baseman, but now between third and the outfield, he's still struggling to play D and hit at the same time. If the first four selections are Upton, Gordon, Tulo, and Zimmerman, the Brewers will have their choice of Braun, Maybin, and Romero. I don't think they'll take Romero, so it's down to Braun vs. Maybin. I'd prefer Braun. I don't think those will be the first four selections. One of those guys will fall, and each of those guys, plus Maybin, I'd take over Braun. I hope Gordon falls, but I couldn't pass up Zimmerman. We need Cirillo #2. I'll bet you a cheese sandwich that Braun (barring injury) is in the big leagues by the end of the 2007 season. Deal? I'll make that a double cheese saying that it'll be 2008, and not with Milwaukee. It's a deal. http://forum.brewerfan.net/images/smilies/smile.gif