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Brewers were in Houston - Richard Justice is in Houston. I think he was in the Brewers clubhouse.

The reason he's on at 3:13 and not 3:40 as I had hoped, is because he'll be in the Astros clubhouse...as he often is at that time. So, umm, I guess we could take your theory and drain pasta with it.

Richard Justice will be on our show today at 3:13 pm CT. If you live outside of market 99, note that we stream like a mutha'. www.espn1070.com

No one important.http://forum.brewerfan.net/images/smilies/wink.gif Agreed.

Ridiculous. No one in the media reads this stuff.

I see. You're lucky I don't throw my clown horn and "Wacky DJ Man of the Year" rubber chicken at you.

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I understand your point - I just dont' agree with it. There's too much Yost bashing when the reality is that this roster is just not that good. So complaining about Yost, IMO, is pointless. Geez, he's not Art Howe. As for taking Yost at his word after every loss and then dissecting it, again, this says it all... http://static.yuku.com//common/bypass/images/off_line.gifTuesdaysWithRillo [-] Posted: 06/08/08 11:31 PM I'm still surprised that people still take Ned Yost's comments to the media at full price. I honestly think he just says random stuff to get the press conference over and manages according to his ideals. The more you analyze Yost's media comments, the more you realize how much they mean: nothing.

TuesdaysWithRillo wrote: I'm still surprised that people still take Ned Yost's comments to the media at full price. I honestly think he just says random stuff to get the press conference over and manages according to his ideals. The more you analyze Yost's media comments, the more you realize how much they mean: nothing. OWEN: This gets to the heart of the matter with Yost and Brewer fans. To me, the bottom line is that Yost has a mediocre roster to work with, so no matter what he does, things will often go wrong. According to Twins fans, Tom Kelly was a horrible manager between 1993 and 2000. Funny how smart he was when his roster was solid from 1987-1991. Does Yost make mistakes? Yes. Do they cost his team games? Sometimes. Is this any different than any other manager? Nope. Do I ask myself questions and then answer them. Yup. Does this make me seem a little crazy? Hang on while I ask one of my personalites... I would get all the Yost bashing regarding removing Villenueva for Mota if Villenuava was Carlos Marmol and Mota was Ron Davis...but they're not. Mota has been very good for the Brewers all year. Villenuava has been up and down all year - although very good as of late. But for this team to succeed, don't both need to make contributions? And everyone's overly happy because Yost leaves Torres in for more than an inning. If Yost continues to do this, I expect those who like it to admit it's a mistake when the reliever's arm falls off. I have a question for those of you who contantly bash Yost; who is the manager you want to hire after you fire Yost? Think about it this way: Are the Phoenix Suns better off now that Terry Porter is their coach? Were the Bucks better off after they fired Terry Stotts and brought in Larry K?

We will be talking about this today, dats fer sure.

IMO, if you want your team to win, booing your guys does you no good. You're hurting yourself...sniff...can't you see that?

Okay, now we're arguing on the show whether calling the strike zone as it is written in the rule book would increase or decrease scoring. The main gyst of the argument is my co-host Mike's assertation that calling a high strike would diminish scoring. I disagree but have no way of proving whether either of us is right. Do you cats know if there's been studies on this? Google is no help. Found this in the Seatle Times: http://community.seattletimes.nwsource.com/archive/?date=20011009&slug=bbnote09 Pitchers, helped by a bigger strike zone, regained a little ground in their never-ending battle with batters. Scoring was down 7.1 percent this season, home runs were down 4.2 percent and the overall earned-run average dipped 7.4 percent. There were 5,458 homers this season, an average of 2.25 per game. That was down from 5,693 homers and a record 2.34 average last year - and even below the 2.27 average in 1999. Hopefully you find this topic as interesting as I do. EDIT: Edited title to reflect subject --BtA

I just lol'd...totally out loud...laughed...

Another question - did you have a problem, like Bill Schroeder, with Yost not sending runners before Prince grounds into a double play? Milwaukee - Bottom of 6th SCORE Tim Hudson pitching for Atlanta ATL MIL M Cameron singled to right. 2 0 R Braun singled to right, M Cameron to second. 2 0 P Fielder grounded into double play, second to shortstop to first, R Braun out at second, M Cameron to third. 2 0 C Hart flied out to right. 2 0 0 Runs, 6 Hits, 0 Errors

I'm tryiing to come up with examples in baseball history in which change was slow to come but is now accepted. Certainly on base % was not valued by most of baseball until recently...right? Are there other examples like this? I guess I just can't stand the argument that if it's such a great idea, how come only Yost and Larussa are doing it?

What's everyone's thoughts on Ned Yost going back to a traditional line up, i.e., flip-flopping Kendall and the pitcher's spot? My co-host, (and Cap Times columnist Mike Lucas) say that this is the right move; in their view, if batting the pitcher 8th is such a great idea, why isn't everyone doing it? To me, this is faulty thinking as baseball history is full of evidence of teams doing things regardless of it being the right move or not. IMO, the issue wasn't whether JJ Hardy needed protection in the 7-hole (Kendall as protection is like a celebrity hiring Don Knotts as a bodyguard), but was about Rickie Weeks living up to his billing. If Weeks hits .270, then Kendall has probably scored more runs and no one complains. Again, your thoughts? (added "change in baseball" to title to reflect direction thread is taking --1992)

ESPN's Keith Law on our program today http://a1135.g.akamai.net/f/1135/18227/1h/cchannel.download.akamai.com/18227/podcast/MADISON-WI/WTSO-AM/05-27-Keith%20Law.mp3?CPROG=PCAST&MARKET=MADISON-WI&NG_FORMAT=sports&SITE_ID=1276&STATION_ID=WTSO-AM&PCAST_AUTHOR=WTSO&PCAST_CAT=Sports&PCAST_TITLE=The_Heller_and_Murphy_Show

Wow, great stuff.

Bad lineup. Taking Hart out of the 5th spot and you lose a lot of production no matter who you put in there unless it is Prince or Braun but then you are losing production at the #3 and 4 spot in the lineup. The lineup is fine the way it is right now. If you take Weeks out of the lead off spot and put Hart there you are losing a lot of production. The lineup the way it is is the best that the Brewers can put out night after night. Since you said it is stupid I am going to have to agree with that point in the lineup you made is stupid. It seems to me that your argument for losing production in the 5th slot is flawed as all I have done is moved it to a place (1st) in which I think it will be maximized. He'll probably have as many chances to knock in runs, as Kendall gets on base at a comparable level to Prince, AND is faster, AND Hart will present more chances to score than Weeks. Plus, now Prince and Braun will get more at bats, again increasing production. So forgive me, but my idea may be flawed, but it's hardly stupid. In the end, most Brewer line ups are flawed as most of the team is underperforming.

I guess he's fatter...I just think he looks as fat as he's always looked. He looked fat to me last year.

I hate you. But it's true. Even my wife thinks I sound like Ray Ramano. I look like Bob Mould and sound like Ray Ramano. Actually I don't think you sound like Ray Romano at all. I was thinking you sound more like Manfred the wooly mammath. For now on I'm referring to you as Manfred. I think we can all agree that I sound like a moron.

…in light of issues with attribution in regard to Spygate and the Boston Herald… http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/columns/story?columnist=stark_jayson&page=rumblings In Jayson Stark's latest Rumblings and Grumblings, he quotes an anonymous scout who says "Prince Fielder: "This guy is so big now, he jiggles. He's enormous. Hey, he's a great hitter. But he's huge." Its one thing to call someone fat, and maybe he is fat, but at least get in front of the quote…and is Jayson Stark being fair to Prince Fielder in using this without attribution? Seems unfair, and kind of a cheap shot, in my opinion. But maybe I'm all wet in regard to this story. Jayson's a great writer, that's for sure.

Hmm, I can't back this argument up, but my ample gut tells me that 0-10 is a strong enough sampling to judge whether a guy's going to have decent success against a pitcher or not. Not 100% full proof, but closer than not. I also don't see how Prince fares against other lefties, like a power pitcher like Randy Johnson, has anything to do with how he'll fare against Maholm. So I guess I politely, possibly foolishly, disagree.

Why?