Brewer Fever

Sweet Rickie! If I only I could have seen it. Nice timing with the darn tornado warning. :mad:

I missed the pregame...did Bill ask Prince if he called his dad yet?

Well, I'm glad I missed this one. Bet there were a ton of folks making their way out of MP cursing how they paid good money to see that Rooter guy. 41,000 that would have been better off doing something else like I was.

It was censorship.

Yutaka, just in case you weren't aware, my perfectly legitimate thread was locked and declared rantish yesterday. That's precisely what censorship is.

Look at the response. Essentially if you don't like it, leave. Wow. Well, maybe because I am a Brewer fan. I have always held this site in high regard. It's very imformative. The only knock against it, is when the Brewers take their annual turn for the worse, and fans try to identify problems with the team, it is frowned upon. No, private businesses do not have to be run they way public ones are, but they can be. It's always sad when they choose not to. It's also sad that the operator of this site has no problem with people urging someone who is not in agreement with popular opinion to leave. Someome just said that a person who doesn't agree with everyone else, makes this place worse. Big WOW, absolutely amazing. Censorship and the slippery slope continues to gain steam. Wouldn't it be nice if the guy stirring all this up would just leave.

And that is rapidly why the quality of this site is weakening in my opinion. Censorship is on the rise here. And that to me is a negative when it's directed at judgement calls. It's sad actually. Almost as sad as the response I got that this is brewerfan.net, we run this ship they way we want, not the way America is run.

Outside of a pre-determined set of "naughty" words, isn't EVERYTHING a judgement call? You just made my point. Censorship should be limited to concrete and specified targets. Judgement should not play a role. I'm a student fresh out of a Constitutional Law course. Our Constitution keeps grey areas and judgement calls out of the reach of censorship. Anything that is a judgement call, should be kept away from censorship. That's precisely a slippery slope.

So was it censorship when they deleted your's and lithium's trolling? You can simply read through this thread to see that the thread that was deleted was far from trolling. The moderator who deleted it has apologized and admitted as much. If you aren't aware of the entirety of what took place, you'd probably be well-served to refrain from labeling those involved.

When censorship targets "judgement" calls...yes it's a bad thing.

Exactly what is the slippery slope that Brewerfan is heading down? 4 words... topic of this thread

I just want to add that a got a private message from the person who locked the thread. It included an apology and I appreciate and respect that. I'm glad I protested. I regret the way in which I protested, but nonetheless it needed to be a loud protest in order to bring the issue to attention. I think my post above has some validity and I hope to see this board at the very least slam on the brakes down the slippery slope its heading. Personally I'd like to see somewhat of a reversal, since a single, "negativity" thread is going too far already. Time will tell.

I was told the topic was "venting thread-ish" when it was locked. The topic was about the significant playing time Magruder was getting in terms of ABs in key situations. I began to go into depth about Brewers reserves over the years, and how we continually give important roles to retreads. Hardly a one-liner rant. The danger with having a "venting thread" is that it seems any topic than slants negative get looped into that conversation and in turn gets locked. Without analyzing the thread, I see it has already happenned today. I will say this. When things are going well for the Crew, the board swells with enthusiasm. As a result countless retread topics appear on the positive side as well. "3rd base is really not a sore spot", "Dana Eveland could be the 5th starter we need to put us over the top". It seems rehash threads that are positive are allowed to stack up and remain repetitive without restriction. My sense is that the staff here tends to frown on negativity and welcome any postive topics even if repetitive. Well, after 12 straight losing seasons, it's kind of ridiculous not to expect negative issues to be at the forefront of people's minds. Given the Brewers track record, how can a serious message forum expect all negativity to be condensed into one thread. It gives me the impression that this site is steering less for the fans, and more for impressing the Brewers organization with a "rah-rah" atmosphere. I have no problem seeing a one-line blanket rant being locked and re-directed. My topic was comprised of historical data and stats...far from a one-liner. Maybe the mods need to be instructed on what is a meaningful conversation and what is a rant that adds nothing. Finally, I had a hard time seeing my thread banished while posters around the board go about insulting people's intelligence and sobriety unfettered. When I protested my thread's demise, I had a poster characterize me as a drunk. I haven't had a drop to drink in years, don't do drugs and by all means am an upstanding citizen. I did however get worked up about censorship. I just think its odd when perfectly legitimate topics get policed while mindless insults fly under the radar. Not really consistent with the intelligent conversation we are told is the goal here.

Isn't just ridiculously frustrating to think what might have been so far this homestand if we actually had a bench? My gosh...instead the season is falling apart and we are still stuck with the Magruders and Durringtons of the world. What exactly is the goal of the organization for 2005? Fine the wild card was a pipe dream. But how do they expect to get to .500 with Magruder playing a big role. Maybe they don't expect to get to .500? In essence, 2005 is looking like another throw away year. May as well get Jack Z a high draft spot. That and seeing the kids in September are probably the most realistic goals. In other words, same as usual.

Bases loaded, no outs...I predict no runs. It's not even worth patting myself on the back. It was the percentage play. Also, this team has many losers on it. I also refuse to spend one dime on Milwaukee Brewers merchandise or tickets until Chris Magruder is no longer in the organization.

If Magruder is going by a nickname, can't it be "Useless" or something rather than "Rooter"?

Bases loaded, no outs...I predict no runs.

1st and 2nd...no outs...I predict no runs.

We better take advantage of the favor Tony LaRussa is doing for us tonight with that lineup.

Lineups... David Eckstein SS So Taguchi CF Albert Pujols 1B Mark Grudzielanek 2B Scott Seabol 3B John Rodriguez LF Hector Luna RF Mike Mahoney C Anthony Reyes P Brady Clark CF Rickie Weeks 2B Lyle Overbay 1B Carlos Lee LF Geoff Jenkins RF Bill Hall SS Russell Branyan 3B Chad Moeller C Doug Davis P

For teh love of God people. MacGruder's job (which he failed at) was to get a run in, even with an out and get Brady to teh plate with a chance to score another run or two. If Branyan K's there, Brady comes up with 2 outs and no runs in, and you need a hit to get a run or two anyway. MacGruder was teh correct call. He just didn't get it done. Once again, teh Yost bashers work under the assumed ceryainty that Branyan would have delivered. Bull. Everyone here was angry the second Magruder stepped into the on deck circle. We all knew it was the wrong choice before he even took a swing. The sad thing is, our manager was the only one who had no clue.

Yep, Ned is saving Branyan/Hall for when we have the bases loaded with one out in the ninth. And of course the score is still 4-2. Melvin is half to blame for not taking that scrub away from Nedly yet.

Boo Yost...Boo Magruder Doug take this scrub away from Ned please. This isn't this first time I've asked.

YES!!!!!

Ummm, hate to say it, but we haven't made an error yet this game. http://forum.brewerfan.net/images/smilies/eek.gif :