I honestly don't know why there's even a discussion any further. Unless Corbin Burnes blows his last start, he's the NL Cy Young winner going away, or should be. If the voters pick somebody else, they're uninformed. Max Scherzer and Zack Wheeler have had great seasons. But Burnes has been better. And that's not debatable. The innings thing? That would look great as the justification for Corbin Burnes being robbed of the Cy Young, because of a 2 week stint in COVID protocols that took him out of of 2-3 starts. All these other stats, wins, win-loss %, ERA, ERA+...they are heavily influenced by the team around the pitcher. They're next to useless here. The Cy Young is supposed to go to the best pitcher. How could you possibly determine that unless you eliminate the variables that may skew the statistical metrics considered? Brandon Woodruff's 166 ERA+ is second best in the Majors. He's got a 9-10 record. FIP virtually eliminates the variables that are team defense, and run support. A good pitcher like Woodruff can get crap run support, and even though he's pitched at an elite level, he still has a losing record. Meanwhile, take a guy like Pete Vuckovich, who in 1982 had a 114 ERA+, a 4.03 FIP, a 1.502 WHIP, and his strikeout to walk ratio was almost 1:1. 105 K, 102 BB. Yet, he clearly won the Cy Young because he was 18-6, and his .750 winning percentage was the best in baseball. He won not because of how he pitched, but because he had the Brewers offense behind him, which was by far the best in baseball, scoring 5.47 RPG. The next best team was the California Angels at 5.02. FIP only considers walks, strikeouts, home runs and hit batters. Beyond the rare inside the park home run (statistically negligible where FIP is concerned), and the impact pitch framing has on walks and strikeouts, 99% of FIP is pitcher performance driven. MLB FIP leaders, as of 9/30/31 1. Corbin Burnes, 1.55 2. Zack Wheeler, 2.58 3. Nathan Eovaldi (BOS), 2.78 4. Gerrit Cole (NYY), 2.91 5. Brandon Woodruff, 2.95 6. Max Scherzer, 2.97 If FIP is referred to as expected ERA, the race for the trophy is over. Burnes 1.55 Wheeler 2.58 Scherzer 2.97 Again, why is this even being debated? Get rid of all the other crap, things like WAR which are impacted by wins, win/loss record. ERA, which can skyrocket if your defense stinks. Or, it can be made to look better than the pitcher's actual performance by an elite defense. Take Jim Palmer in the early 1970s. I've seen one group after another debate who the best pitcher of that decadewas. Many argue Palmer. I think it's Tom Seaver. Palmer's had two top 5 finishes in FIP in his career. Among all Hall of Fame starting pitchers with 150 or more starts in the Live Ball Era (1920-present), 47 in total, Palmer ranks 32nd in FIP. 70% of his career innings came in the 1970s. In the decade itself? 90 pitchers had 150 or more starts between 1970 and 1979. Palmer's FIP of 3.29 was 21st of 90 pitchers. Yet, he had the most wins (186), the best ERA (2.58) and second best ERA+ (137) behind Tom Seaver's 138. Clearly, having Mark Belanger at shortstop, Brooks Robinson at third, Davey Johnson then Bobby Grich at second, and Paul Blair in center, five men who combined to win 39 Gold Gloves while in Baltimore, made Palmer look better than he should have. Given the choice, Tom Seaver was by far the more effective pitcher. His 2.65 FIP was the best in the 1970s. He didn't need his defense to do the work for him. Corbin Burnes has been better than Scherzer and Wheeler. I don't care that they have 15 and 14 wins, to Burnes 11. Burnes has had five other starts of 6 or more IP, and 2 or fewer ER allowed, and got a no decision. And his losses? In his four losses, the Brewers got shut out three times. And the fourth game, they scored 1 run. Burnes had a 4.03 ERA in those games, but he pitched better than that number shows. In 22 1/3 IP, he gave up 10 earned runs. But he only walked 4 batters, and gave up 16 hits. And 1 home run. That's a 0.897 WHIP (20 H + BB / 22.3 IP) He struck out 36 batters. That's a 9:1 SO/BB ratio. And he struck out 14.53/9 IP Clearly he pitched at a high level. The rest of the team just stunk. And the Brewers gave him 1 run of support in 4 games.