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No, he should not be putting them on the bench every day but if a player is so thick-skulled that he can't get the message otherwise, then I don't have a problem with it. The manager runs the team, not the players. You completely missed the point. The point is the message that is sent to the TEAM by removing a pitcher in the 2nd inning because he is not throwing strikes, regardless of how many runs he has given up. This has nothing to do with Rich Hill has his 2008 performance and everything to do with Lou Piniella letting his team know that they are going to play "his way" or not at all. Let me create a similar scenario and tell you what I would like to see out of a Brewer's manager, given the current culture of this team. It is the bottom of the 6th inning, no outs and the Brewers are tied with the Cubs 4-4. Ted Lilly has just walked Prince Fielder and Corey Hart on 9 pitches. Bill Hall comes to the plate and works the count to 3-0. On the fourth pitch, he swings and pops out to the second baseman ...Joe Dillon comes into the game at 3B in the top of the 7th. When asked why the move was made after the game, the manager says something to effect of "That was not the situation to be swinging at pitches. We had a pitcher that just walked 2 guys on 9 pitches and we gotta be trying to load the bases to set ourselves up for a big inning". The manager sent a message loud and clear when he removed Bill Hall from the game. He also validated the message by holding Bill Hall accountable without even using his name in the post game conference. He acknowldeges that what happened at the plate was unacceptable, yet he doesn't uses Bill Hall's name. I think that this is the type of thing that many of us would like to see. Instead, Ned would probably not remove Hall from the game and if asked about it in the post game, he would probably say something to the effect of, "You know, you score runs by swinging the bat. Billy saw a pitch he liked and he just missed it. That stuff happens. If he connects and doubles to the gap, we score 2 runs..."

I think that it would instill a sense of accountability on this team. It seems to be that the young players on this team are allowed to do whatever they want and when they make mistakes, Ned just defends them by generating excuses. It is one thing to support your players but it is another thing to not hold them accountable for anything that they do on the field. I am not a Lou Piniella fan by any means, but if you look at the Chicago Cubs, there is a sense of accountability on the team. When someone screws up or makes a boneheaded, costly play, Lou does not make the fact that he is irritated a secret. A perfect example is this was when, a few weeks ago, Rich Hill was having major issues throwing strikes in the second inning of a game. At the time, he had not given up many runs but Lou removed him from the game. Lou did this to make a statement ..you don't throw strikes, you don't pitch. Did the decision put added stress on the bullpen? Yes. Was the decision in the best interest of that particular game? Probably not. Did the decision do a lot as far as sending a message to everyone on the team and help to maintain a culture of accountability? In my opinion, absolutely. Does having such a culture in place pay off in the long run? I believe it does. My intent is not to vent but it really seems that the Brewers get picked off, pop out on 3-0 counts, refuse to take pitches after the previous 2 batters have been walked on 8 pitches ..etc. The team needs a change in culture and the only way to accomplish this is going to be by hiring a hard-nosed manager. We have reached the point where "battling" is simply not good enough anymore. The Brewers are currently 3 games below .500. They could easily be 6 games below by the time this road trip is over. Even with no Gallardo, that is a problem. If people think that Ned doesn't have anything to do with this, then I wonder why MLB teams even have managers in the first place.

..Perfectly put. I am in this camp as well. Yost must go.

That definitely was not a man. My friend and I were dying! Did you hear Anderson .."Yikes..Big crowd today..."

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I really hope that this is his last chance. Not only do I feel that Many and Carlos are better options in the present, I also feel that their development will be hurt if they are sent to the pen or worse yet, packing for Nashville. Also, at this point, I really do not care about who has options and who doesn't. We lost the division by 2 games last year ...I want the best players we have on the field, period.

Sorry, didn't realize discussion on this topic just began in the Clemens thread. This may warrant a separate thread but do as you must.

This pretty much has to seal the deal for him. What is he going to say now? http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3246542

Jaybird, Only one thing is certain. You and this lady will never have a chance, ever .....if you do not contact her. Go for it! You literally have nothing to lose and everything to gain. You haven't talked to her in two years! If you are really nervous about calling her cell, try texting her ...just do SOMETHING!! You never know what can happen. This actually reminds me of Goodwill Hunting where Robin Williams knew the woman at the bar was the one for him. He ditched his friends to "see about a girl" and ended up missing Carlton Fisks homer! He never regretted it.....

Here are my suggestions for this rare but admirable feat: 1) Eating for the cyle 2) The Klement Sampler 3) Took the sausage tour

I lost about 35 pounds (205 to 170) after I got out of college and have kept it off for an entire year. Here are the things that worked for me, maybe some will work for you as well. 1) Track the calories that your meals contain and set target levels for your meals. Many people think that calorie counting is obsessive but for me it really helped me to understand exactly what I was eating. I actually created an excel spreadsheet with a table containing all the foods I buy and their nutritional facts. Before I made a meal, I would select components to get nutrition fact information for my entire meal. My guess is that you will be surprised as to how many calories are in some foods and create new recipes/combinations for meals. After a while, you will begin to understand what you are eating and may no longer need to track. 2) Gain an understanding of how many calories your activities burn and set a daily/weekly goal. Different types of excercise burn calories at different rates. Some people like to mix up their workouts, but try to make sure the result stays consistent. Consistency is key to losing weight. For me, I started off using an eliptical machine. Once I got in better cardiovascular shape, I switched to a treadmill because I could burn the same amount of calories in only 60 percent of the time required on an eliptical. 3) Lift weights For some reason when I lift weights I really get this feeling that my muscles are "absorbing" the calories I eat. The thing to remember about weight lifting is that you are not only burning calories during the workout, you are also using calories when your muscles are repairing in your sleep. Different people like to lift different ways. I prefer to challenge myself but have no desire to be incredible "pumped". I just want to look fit. Any lifting helps. 4) Develop a "10 Commandments" list or something similar that you know you can stick to. I think it is important to implement some permanent changes in your life. How aggressive the changes are depends on the person. You have to remember though, the changes should not only be geared towards making you lose weight but also at improving your health and general well-being. I ended up using two lists. One for normal eating (on my own) and the other for when I eat out (it is impossible to not eat out on occasions). I felt that that the rules needed to be different because when you go out to eat, you do need to enjoy it. My two lists look like this: Home eating rules 1. No junk snacks kept in the house (Chips, Cheetos ..etc) 2. All grains must be whole grains (pasta, rice, bread, cereal) 3. 3 different pieces of fruit must be eaten each day 4. Every meal must contain a vegatable serving 5. Meat must be kept to what is considered an actual serving 6. No soda (water for all meals except breakfast) Eating out rules 1. No burgers 2. Nothing breaded (primarily the case with chicken) 3. No appetizers 4. No bringing food home (doggie bags) 5. Drink water with meal 6. Stop when full (there is no need to eat "because you paid for it") Everybody is different but these are the things what worked for me. If some of them work for you, great! If not, hopefully you will find other things that do. Good luck!

I love chorizo's. They taste terrific and you can eat them in may different ways (beside how you would eat a brat). Queso Fundido con Chorizo is a wonderful example. Anyways, one time while I was at the grocery store, I saw uncooked Chorizos. They were packaged just like you would find normal Klements or Johnnsonville brats ..on the foam tray with the plastic wrap. Now, the only Chorizos I can find are the precooked ones that come packaged like hot dogs. Has anyone else been experiencing a similar issue?

MoneyballMan, It is not the same exact version and doesn't do the original video it's justice but...... uncutvideo.aol.com/videos/a1dc3e542d129c7b3cad346ce73652ae

Here are my grades. Please note that this is based off how they have stacked up against the rest of the league so far. It has nothing to do with what was expected of them and whether not they are falling short of or exceeding expectations RF: Corey Hart = B Corey has been playing great, could be an A but where was he in the first couple of months? SS: JJ Hardy = A - Doing it with the bat and the glove. Not many SS at the major league level that I would have rather had on the roster so far this year. 3B: Ryan Braun = A This guy can flat out hit. How many third baseman's half season would you have taken over his? Rodriguez and maybe Cabrera? Hasn't been too bad with the glove either 1B: Prince Fielder = A Only thing keeping him from an A+ is the batting average, which is still pretty good. CF: Billy Hall = C Where has Bill Hall version 2006 gone? He hasn't been bad, there are just other CF that better. C: Johnny Estrada = B Can we please take the first pitch? Just once? If he had more plate discipline, I think he would be unstoppable. LF: Geoff Jenkins = C+ Started out great. Hopefully he'll heat up at the end of the year like he usually does. 2B: Rickie Weeks = D+ May have an injury but his peformance has been everything short of spectacular. P: Ben Sheets = A P: Chris Capuano = B- P: Jeff Suppan = C P: Dave Bush = D+ P: Claudio Vargas = B- Closer: Francisco Cordero = A

Well stated.

I would not be a fan of a 9 game World Series at all. Especially if MLB were to use nuetral sites for the first two games. Boras' proposal would turn the WS into a circus. The current 7 game format is perfect. There is no reason to drag it out any longer. Many people that are turned off by baseball are turned off by the long season and enormous amount of games. They often cite that there are so many games that no particular game seems "special". I am not in this camp as I love 162 games but baseball should consider this crowd when making a decision to extend the WS by 2 games. The article also mentioned how great it would be to open the WS in Tokyo?!? Seriously, if that happens, I will have no interest in watching the WS (Unless the Brewers are in it). Baseball is America's past time and if Bud Selig tries to make money for the MLB by playing a WS game in another country, I will be furious. I think the new divisional layout was a great decision. Expanding the playoffs to 4 teams in each league was a great decision. Interleague play was a good decision until MLB decided to implement the "regional rivalry" concept where they get to appearantly pick and choose what the matchups will be without any consideration for consistency in schedules. Making the WS 9 games and adding nuetral locations will be too much for me to handle.

Great outing by Inman tonight. Hopefully this is a sign that he is feeling better. I grew concerned when I saw the numbers he was putting up following his promotion to Huntsville. I have heard that the jump from A+ to AA is the most difficult. Hopefully he is healthy now and the Mono is behind him.

It thought it was hilarious on Baseball Tonight when they were talking about the two sources very different accounts as to how many people actually walked out. One source (may have been Yahoo, because someone already mentioned it) stated that about 100 people walked out, while some local newsource reported that about 7,000 people walked out. "Then, during the third inning, somewhere between 100 and 7,000 fans left their seats in a protest..." http://forum.brewerfan.net/images/smilies/smile.gif

I began running about a year ago after several years of laziness in college. I am 23 and like you, managed to stay in semi-decent shape. After I had begun running for a few weeks, my knees began to hurt so bad that the pain was causing me to hobble around a bit. I decided to go out and buy a nice pair a shoes to see if it would help. A lot of investigation went into the process as I wanted to find the most confortable shoes possible. Eventually, I found a pair I liked (some Asics shoe). When I began running in the new shoes, the pain went away in a matter of days. So I agree, the shoes can make a huge difference. If you are feeling pain that cannot be attributed to an injury, chances are it has something to do with you mechanics. Shoes, I believe, can have a big influence.

I really don't see how those numbers qualify him for the Hall of Fame. Just kidding. If those numbers do not get you in, I don't know what you have to do. He has been a machine for many years. When you consider that he played the majority of his career at 2B, I don't know how anyone could justify keeping him out.

Well, not that having Mono is a good thing ...but it is way better than discomfort in his shoulder or something like that. Hopefully he will bounce back. Thanks for the info.

After his last start, I am beginning to get concerned. Is he ok?

That's the way you play baseball!!

Buy or Sell? BUY!!

So does Ned let Yo go back out to pitch in the 7th? His pitch count is pretty low, but he could come to bat with runners on this inning.