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I meant the other way around, oops.

Say we get Archer for Santana Burnes Peralta Say we sign Arrietta for 5/125 Move Braun primary first base and corner OF maybe he plays 65 games at each. Thames moves to a soft platoon, primary PH ala Aguliar last year. Aguliar we DFA or get what little value we can get for him. Seperate trade for Kipnis. Lets say Kipnis and $10 M for Cody Ponce Villar (just spitballing). Nelson comes back in June and regains his 2017 form by July. Broxton is put in AAA or traded for a small peice. Everyday lineup: Yelich Cain Braun Shaw Kipnis Pina Phillips Arcia Pitcher Rotation: Arrietta Archer Nelson Anderson Davies Bullpen: Knebel Hader Albers Logan Chacin Barnes Jeffress Gallardo Bench: Thames Sogard Vogt Perez Thats a WS roster barring health.

For starters, as far as velocity goes as long as you are hitting 93-94 consistently...you can be effective. If you don't have that, you need a true plus/double plus offering. Once you're hitting at least 93-94, offspeed stuff matters more than added velocity in my opinion. Archer has a true plus if not double plus slider. I understand Burnes works with 93-95 heat and a 4 pitch mix of average-above average offerings...but everything plays up due to plus/double plus command. Unless his stuff improves, that profiles as a #3/4 starter that could play up to #2 results due to command. That's what we're seeing from Davies, he's more of a #4 but his stuff plays up to a #2/3 results because his command is so good(also he has so much movement on his FB/change). Right but you can be a #1-#2 with having elite control. The Braves are pretty familiar with that. If just one of Corbins pitches improves (which id say theres a solid chance of, dude has been in the system less than 2 years) then he goes "control pitcher" to being a stud TOR because he has the velocity to back him up.

Arguably the best team in Brewers history had Yuni B at SS, Casey McGehee at 3rd (until we traded for Hairston), and Mark Kotsay as our 4th OF. I'm not a Villar fan, but also don't want to empty out the farm. Not every single position on the field needs to be a star to contend. Well good, because I dont expect pina arcia or phillips to be stars. That was CC right. If I'm misremembering then it was Grienke. Yeah we don't have that guy either. That was 2011. Yuni B because Alcidies was traded for Grienke.

Text from my source: Multiple trades are still in place. One trade is hung up on 1 player. Brewers are waiting for the call. Darvish camp quiet. High on Kipnis. Sigh... guess im refreshing twitter all day again

While I do think that's what it would take to land Mejia, I'm not sure how that helps the Brewers this year unless we go out and get another third baseman? We would need a 3B and honestly I'm not in love with Salazar as a TOR type because of his durability. If we were still in rebuild mode, maybe but you dont give up two young middle of the order bats when you want to compete for a prospect and a possible TOR starter but not a sure thing. Id hate this if they did it.

He had a career year last year and crazy low babip/era. Probably wont be as good as last year, probably similar to jacob barnes with less walks but less strikeouts

Did he delete the tweet youre inferring to?

Schoop Schoop would be awesome but we'd probably have to add some for him. Idk their OF/2B depth situation but i think thatd be a lateral move for them and wouldnt really make sense.

Can't see Cleveland doing their part of the proposal. Mejia or McKenzie (the untouchable) is worth a lot more than D Santana and a "throw in". I disagree, santana is pre arby and has had success in the majors. 3+ WAR players with a potential for more dont grow on trees and hes got 5(4*) years of control

Clevinger would be awesome. Fits the same window as our recently acqiured OFers too. I dont buy a trade for Salazar, i dont think Stearns is the type of GM to take on injury risk for no reason. You get one of the top cost controlled guys like Archer, Clevenger, Fulmer etc for him even if it means paying more. I think we underestimate the return Stearns will be looking for in a trade for Domingo, especially to an AL team. Hes not Yelich, but if he strictly DHs he's worth ~1 fWAR less than him and hes even considerably cheaper than Yelich is over the next 5 years.

And probably better.

I believe they get at least one more starter. Probably by trading Santana. At this point wouldn't be shocked if they signed a FA as well. The last 24 hours have really confused my expectations. I would be shocked if we got two more starters. Getting one firmly puts Hader/Suter into the pen (which seems likely at this point). Getting a second puts Woodruff to AAA to start the season and then if/when Nelson comes back, puts Chacin/Davies to the pen. That seems like two many quality pitchers to manage. I know you can never have too much pitching but with the Nelson complications and solid AAA depth already (Burnes, Ortiz, Wilkerson), I don't think a second starting pitcher is a good use of resources. Odds are, next year we could be trading 1 or 2 of our starters because we don't have room for them. I never thought id see a day that we can talk about the brewers having TOO much pitching

Im in an extreme minority here, but im glad Ryan Braun is sticking around. He's a part of my fondest baseball memories (started following in 2005) and really hope we can get him a ring. (Im fully aware he threw that guy under the bus but ive forgiven him for that and the HGH he was using to nurse injuries)

Totally agree with you, but at this point obviously no prospect is safe. Id love to see how stearns orders our guys.

Agreed. Its become incredibly toxic.

Isnt WRC+ factored for park variation?

Yaaaaaaassss in Stearns i trust!

That's something that gets overlooked. Trading big prospects for Yelich is, in all likelihood, a reversible move. If two years down the road things aren't working out the way you hoped, pretty easy to put Yelich back on the block and probably recoup all the value you gave up. Yeah he won't have as much control at that time but if he continues his career trajectory and puts up a couple 5 WAR seasons, he'd only be 28 and even more proven and his contract would look even lighter than it does now. He'd be worth a haul like he is now. To add to this, given your hypothetical scenario about trajectory, hes probably worth more now but the marlins arent going to get full value in a trade. Whoever gets him is going to get him at a discount as say Brinson, Burnes and a top 30 org prospect when hes really worth Brinson, Burnes, Hiura, Diaz, Gatewood in prospect value.

Correct me if im wrong, but can it be Hiura? Hasnt been a year since the draft

To me, this trade makes much more sense if you think back the to web-o-trades suggestion. You could still deal Santana for that starter plus sing one of the reaming FA's. There are lots of possibilities here. This seems to have all started with the Brewers making a legit offer for Darvish - that in turn drove other teams pursuing him to get into a bidding war so the team that actually signs him prices themselves out of the remaining free agent pitchers. Then, the Brewers shift to making a quality offer for Yelich with prospects - if they land him they get great player in his prime to play CF or RF depending on how the roster takes shape over the next 4 seasons. Adding Yelich would then allow for a trade of Santana at what could be his peak value from the Brewers' perspective to an AL team that can use RH pop in either a corner OF spot or DH (which is where Santana belongs, IMO). The return for Santana should be a good young starter with a few years of team control remaining to help bolster the rotation - or a very good 2B in the same contractual mode. Finish it off with signing one of the remaining starting pitcher FAs, and you'd drastically improved the rotation even before Nelson returns, drastically improved the OF defense and exchanged a quality RH power bat despite all the strikeouts with a quality LH power bat who hits for a high average. Yeah so much this. I cant wait to watch a player who doesnt strike out, gets on base and plays above average D. I love Domingo but his strikeout rate is maddening. The lefthandedness of Yelich is a cherry on top.

Thank god! Does he think we have a good shot at getting Yelich? Yes. You gave a % of the initial trade. What do you think about this one?

I'd go Brinson, Burns, I. Diaz, Peralta, and Pennington and not feel like the farm was emptied. You eat Prado's contract along with that package and you are there. As the substitute Marlins representative I'd do that deal....Christian Yelich/Martin Prado for Lewis Brinson/Corbin Burnes/Isan Diaz/Freddy Peralta/Josh Pennington. If thats what it takes i hope Stearns low balled em.

Probably panic due to his down year last year. Really think he bounces back in AA next year. Him and Erceg.

I have a hard time believing the Ellsbury thing