I think Tyler needs a year at Triple A to gain some movement on his fastball as well refine his secondary Pitches. Seems like Tom H in some of his tweets sounded a bit down on Tyler. I really hope Willy and Mark have turned the corner and can contribute in the starting rotation next year. I have to think if Fliers finshes out the year strong he should be a lock for a spot. That be Yo,and the M&M boys as well as Rogers and Peralta and Narvy battling for spots if Marcum and Wolf and Grienke leave. I expect Doug to keep one of the Vets as well add a Fa if he can for the 2013 Rotation.