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Did anybody else like Karen way more than Pam? Pam is totally flighty and I think Karen is better looking.
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So what did we accomplish this season?
DougJones43 replied to LUKE232323's topic in Milwaukee Brewers Talk
So wait, I'm confused as to what exactly your argument is. Just before, you were trying to say that anybody who thought the 2005 Brewers were a .500 talent-level team was clueless and a poor judge of talent. I think you realized that argument wasn't as sound as you originally thought, so you've tried to shift gears and now point out that the 2007 Brewers are more talented than the 2005 Brewers? I don't see how that's really relevant to your original argument. It doesn't exactly offer much "proof" to back up your earlier insistance that the 2005 team wasn't .500 talent. -
He can start by getting rid of 4 of the guys he just acquired: Vargas, Aquino, Estrada, and Mench.
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So what did we accomplish this season?
DougJones43 replied to LUKE232323's topic in Milwaukee Brewers Talk
First of all, those two things are nothing alike. A baseball team, as a whole, controls their W-L destiny much more than a pitcher does. Second, over a full 162 games, the 2005 Brewers outscored their opponents 726-697. And they played in a good division. So, in a way you're right - their talent level wasn't indicative of a .500 team. It was actually closer to a 84-78 team, according to their pythagorean record. -
I didn't necessarily say that the playoff race was the reason he stunk. I just pointed out that he did, in fact, stink. We were in a playoff race, and Jenkins didn't hit worth a hill of beans. Considering how often people rave about his late-season hot streaks, we could have really used one this September. I certainly think our veteran leader's inability to help the Brewers during the pennant chase is a legitimate topic for discussion. If you want to believe it's random coincidence that he hit so poorly this year as opposed to other years, be my guest. That doesn't change the fact that it happened.
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Counting down to blastoff of a winning season in three, two, .... , ....two-and-a-half......................um....two-and-a-quarter.......
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<font face="monospace" size="4"> [b]GEOFF JENKINS SEPTEMBER STATS[/b] [u]AVG[/u] [u]OBP[/u] [u]SLG[/u] [u]OPS[/u] <font style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ff0000">2007 .237 .303 .373 .676</font> 2006 .381 .480 .698 1.178 2005 .315 .388 .630 1.018 2004 .299 .348 .589 .937 </font> <font face="sans-serif"> During his first September of meaningful games, Geoff Jenkins pulled a disappearing act. His overall season numbers ended up being very disappointing as well, with a sub .800 OPS despite favorable matchups.</font>
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This team already has more wins than the 2004 Brewers. Are you telling me that doesn't impress you to the point of being blown right out of your computer chair? Show some appreciation, you ungrateful creep!
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Next year, I'll know better than to get excited IN THE LEAST by a fast start.
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True. They are still 5th in the NL in runs scored and 4th in OPS though. It certainly wouldn't hurt them to walk more and carry a higher team batting average, but they're leading the league in HR, and are only in the middle of the pack for strikouts, so it's not as if they've been just swinging wildly without results. I'd be pretty satisfied if the team put up similar offensive numbers next year. I think they did better this year than they were projected to. Also, Skaalen has a history with many of the players, and obviously would fit in nicely if somebody like Kremblas got the managerial job.
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I'd guess there is virtually no chance of that happening. I think if Ned doesn't stay, there will be some big-time housecleaning, and a whole new staff will be brought in (although Skaalen will probably stay).
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Right.....because nobody has ever been fired after being given a vote of confidence. Especially when immidiately following that show of support, they promptly act like such an ass that they are only allowed to manage 1 full game out of 5 in the midst of a pennant race. Of course Mark A. was going to say "he's fine," or whatever it was he mumbled when he was put on the spot. He's smart enough not to say/do something stupid that would cause a major distraction during the last week of the season. Unfortunately, not everybody was blessed with that kind of mental capacity...
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Weeks.
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5 errors??? Yikes... http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/8213/errorsxz4.jpg
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That's the right attitude. I think every player and coach on the Brewers roster should be put under a gag order for the rest of the season. Every time one of them opens their mouth, it just becomes more and more evident that the team is littered with donkeys.
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I think there is a lot of merit to the vote for Doug Melvin. He's kept Yost for 5 years, knowing full well what he's all about. He assembled a starting rotation that consisted of Capuano, Bush, and Claudio Vargas. He acquired Johnny Estrada, Greg Aquino, and Claudio Vargas...all in the same trade! He decided to move Bill Hall to CF, and keep Braun at 3B. This definitely didn't help our defense this year, and that defense was certain to be important seeing how he was relying on contact pitchers like Suppan and Cappy. He paid Kevin Mench $3.4M to hit for a .754 OPS in 285 AB's. He paid Tony Graffanino and Craig Counsell a combined $6M. He didn't do much at the trade deadline to help improve the team. Guys like Fielder, Braun, and Hart have turned out to be amazing hitters, but that might be more of a compliment to Jack Z. Melvin didn't put together a very good team around MVP and ROY candidates.
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I'm beginning to think that the stunt Ned pulled tonight could have been just asinine enough to get Doug Melvin and Mark Attanasio re-thinking their decision to keep him. In a way, it's just about the worst thing he could have possibly done. Even if Ned had sat motionless in the dugout while the team lost the rest of their games, that might have been forgivable. But giving away a pennant chase game to participate in a beanball war? That won't be something that's easy to overlook or forget...
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Okay, time for a real answer. Gotta be Capuano.
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Maybe next year, he can bean in the winning run for the other team during Game 7 of the World Series.
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Ned Yost's parents, for conceiving him.....Also, Wes Helms.
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Exactly! I'm so happy the Brewers have set aside their playoff aspirations in favor of playing the game the "right way." What a fantastic decision. Some fans will be disappointed that this retaliation might very well cost us a shot at the playoffs, but that's just because they were never backup catchers so they don't understand baseball.
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Wow. Getting dragged down into a bean-ball war with a team that's out of contention. Probably the stupidest, and definitely the most childish thing our manager has done yet. When it comes to being a buffoon, Ned never disappoints. What a fitting nail in the coffin of our season.
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Ned Yost Yay or Nay thread: Hardball Times rips Yost (part 2)
DougJones43 replied to Ennder's topic in Milwaukee Brewers Talk
I'm not scoffing at the theory behind the leverage index, or the implementation of those theories. I'm just saying that actually keeping one in the dugout that the manager needs to look at before making pitching changes seems far-fetched. That kind of knowledge and intuition should be ingrained in a good manager. Also, there is a lot of other stuff going on that needs to be processed in real-time game situations. For example, last weeks game against the Astros had huge implications for the Brewers. They had just stormed back from behind, and needed that game to keep pace with the Cubs. Cordero needed to be used. I want my manager to realize the importance of that situation, and no index is going to tell him that. It just doesn't seem reasonable to have a manager relying too much on charts and indexes during the game. -
Ned Yost Yay or Nay thread: Hardball Times rips Yost (part 2)
DougJones43 replied to Ennder's topic in Milwaukee Brewers Talk
I don't think it's very realistic to try and compile such a list since every situation is so different. For example, what could you find to compare to leaving in Mench instead of Jenkins to face Dempster? Or bringing in Aquino on the Labor Day game? Or not using Cordero against the Astros with the season possibly hanging in the balance last week? How many managers would remove Braun in the 7th inning of a 1-run game? Obviously, there is no realistic way to answer these questions with 100% certainty. That leaves us observation coupled with basic common sense to draw conclusions. I think, although it can't technically be proven, it's pretty fair to assume most of the better managers in the league would not have made these same decisions. There has been analysis done by some very astute baseball minds that also find these moves very puzzling. That has to count for something, as they also examine other managers and seem to believe Yost makes some of the more illogical decisions.
