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I get it and agree. I guess my point is to ask whether the haul we'd get for Made, plus still having Pena, is worth more than keeping Made plus whatever we'd get for Pena. I might not be stating it very clearly. I think when you've this deep a farm system, and at the same time this close to being a world series favorite, you need to at least consider it. Brewers window is now. The future looks very promising, but the team they have today is very good and is real.

Great move for Yoho...long term at least. I think he's going to be successful.

Ashby gets used to death. He wants it that way, but sometimes Murph and Hook need to be the adults in the room. Some help is on the way. Hall will be back very soon and I think Wagoner is going to get a call in a couple of weeks. That's not a fix-all, but that would be a lot of added depth. I see Wagoner as a useful 6th or 7th inning option. Hopefully he gets his shot. Also...if the Brewers pick up a starter before the deadline, one of the current starters....probably Sproat, will add additional depth. I'm not as concerned as some.

Whenever they've been together, Pena's performance has been similar or even a bit better. Made's hitting .270-ish in AA....I don't think anyone has any doubts about Pena hitting AA pitching. The difference between the two, it seems, is that Made will ultimately be a better glove. Pena is still in Appleton so he can continue playing short (there's no room in Biloxi for another infielder who MUST have innings), and possibly because of his early season issues.

Ok...before I get run off the forum &/or strung up by something important, hear me out.... ;) There are numerous proposals out there involving Pena. Made's market value is a lot higher. However, early season health scare aside, Pena's performance has been comparable. I'm not saying he'll be as good player in the bigs (I really don't know). However... is Pena plus (insert name of high level trade target...Abrams for instance) worth more than Made? You lose the best player in your system, but keep the second best player and you get a big bite at the apple for the next 2 years. I'm using Abrams as an example only (not really sure about his fit), but in his case you get his bat for 2 years plus whatever trade value he has at the end of his contract. I'm not sure its all that crazy, assuming the return is something truly special....and not a rental. Now...I'm ready to be pilloried. :)

That must be why his teams have been so bad...

Interesting profile, but doesn't he sound a lot like Yoho, who has been a topic of a lot of conversations on this site? Seems the Brewers don't really know how to use him...and some would say they don't really like that particular profile? The podcast has spent a lot of time on this topic.

Should the Brewers move one of their infield prospects to the 40 man roster? Does Hamilton’s recent injury illustrate the need for this? Seems they’re a little exposed right now if there is a more serious injury.

I don’t think you can trade Peña anymore this year because teams will want to be absolutely certain about his health. You’d be selling low, I believe. I’m not too unhappy about that because I believe his upside may be even better than people think. Same problem with Williams… You’d probably be selling low right now given his performance recently. I think now is the time to make a decision on Lara. If the Brewers don’t think that profile will really work for them or if they feel they already have the same player with Sal in right field, then sell high on him right now. I am a fan and would hate to see that move, but it would make some sense.

He JUST KEEPS GETTING MORE EXPENSIVE!

They have the best record in all of baseball against teams over .500. Not sure what more they need to do.

Very different teams...they don't get it done the same way. That's not my point. I'm referring to the overall demeanor and how the previous year affected both teams and expectations. Most here don't remember it, but in '82 a deep playoff run just seemed inevitable. It was really a little bit weird. No one questioned it. That, I think, is the reason Buck Rogers was given a shorter leash than he might have been. They were going...period. Same thing this year...whether they get there or not only time will tell, but it just has the same feeling and it looks to me that's how the club sees it. They're a mature, seasoned team, despite their relative youth.

I’d love to know if others are seeing this, but it just seems like this team has an air of unfinished business. The demeanor of the team seems a little bit more hard-core and business like this year. You don’t see the fun celebrations with the weird hats and necklaces after Home runs… It’s just let’s get back to business. as an older fan, I see some parallels between the 25/26 Brewers and the 81/82 Brewers. Situation was different and the playoff structure was different, but the 81 Brewers lost to the Yankees in the playoffs and learned a great deal. Most importantly, they learned that they were an elite team and belonged.The following year it was as if they expected to be there and just needed to go out and get the job done. Kind of the same feeling this year. They are no longer grateful to be in the playoffs… They expect to win the division, expect to be in the NLCS…anything less than a World Series appearance I think will be a disappointment to this team and this organization. That is a huge step forward.

I'm not on the Jett bandwagon...not for this year anyway. I think you could bring him up, but he'd be "a guy". You bring up Fisher for a cup of coffee and if he's difference maker, he stays, otherwise he goes to Nashville. That's a lot of pressure to put on a guy who just came up from high A, but he seemed to handle it well during the WBC. You probably don't even look at this option until early Aug, and see where he is. The point might be moot. The platoon the Brewers have right now at third looks like it might be pretty productive. It won't give you any power, but effective nevertheless. Darn good defensively, too.

You have to feel bad for the guy. I hated to see him leave, but that was his dream job. I think most Brewer fans understood that and wished him well. It’s definitely not working out and Milwaukee‘s recent success isn’t making things look any better. Having said that… Much of what we have today was done under his leadership.