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Braves (Soroka) vs Brewers (Peralta): 7/21/23, 7:10pm
adambr2 replied to Brock Beauchamp's topic in Archived Game Threads
If Gamecast is accurate, pitch 2 to Arcia was a horrific call.
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Bucks couldn't really do anything else other than run it back with their core, so keeping it together with Middleton and Lopez was the correct choice. As others have said I think there's a 2 year window here to try to win another ship and then the Bucks are in for some very lean rebuilding years. They will attempt to keep Giannis of course, but I think his mind is all but made up to play out his contract here and then take his talents elsewhere for a change.
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True, but foresight is kind of part of the job of a GM, no?
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https://fansided.com/2023/06/13/packers-broncos-aaron-rodgers-trade/?amp&&utm_campaign=minutemedia&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=minutemedia Boat missed so badly by Gute if this is true.
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So I guess the only real difference here is that if Love is the guy, he gets an additional 2.3M in 2024 while they presumably work out an extension, and if he blows so massively that they have to move on after 2023, they save about 6.7M versus if they had just picked up the option. Personally if you're confident in the guy I don't know why you don't just pick up the option rather than hedge your bet like this. If they were going to go this route I would have rather giving him a little bigger signing bonus and tried to secure an extra year of control in '25.
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I haven't heard/seen any extension talk on Love. Any links to this? I'd just be curious. An extension right now doesn't make much sense to me. Would think the Packers would want to see what they have first before committing. Maybe a 2 year extension after this year like you suggested would make sense though? A guaranteed signing bonus of 20M or so might sound good to Love and the Packers could potentially get some cap friendly numbers in '24 and '25 if he pans out. Maybe that IS the delay. "Take this deal or we're going to decline your option and if you suck this year you'll be looking around for a cheap backup job somewhere next year." In much nicer words, of course.
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Still no decision on Love's 5th year option. If they aren't willing to commit 20M or so to him for 2024, in a QB market where Daniel Jones types get 40M a year, they are not nearly as confident in him as they've implied.
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I'm assuming it's a near certainty that the Packers will pick up the 5th year option on Love. It's not ideal with the information they have, but they are pretty much hitching their wagon to him for at least the next 2 seasons anyway. May as well just go that route rather than do what the Giants did and miscalculate and end up paying more with no leverage on Jones other than the franchise tag.
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4-7 would be interesting. That's about 64.7% but could wind up on either side of 65. My assumption is that they'd still go for it, they have too much invested not to, unless Rodgers was somehow so disastrous that they had a good excuse to switch. The Jets have a pretty good defense and some good skill players on offense so I doubt this is a factor though.
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Well at 6-8 he's already played 80+% of the season snaps, assuming no injuries.
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My guess is just no urgency. We knew the Jets had no Plan B and they knew we didn't have other suitors and weren't going to bring him back. So there was no reason for anyone to panic buy or panic sell a month ago. With the draft so close, the urgency was there. We didn't want to lose out on a top 45 pick this year and the Jets knew if we didn't get a pick this year this would get a lot harder to get done and we'd no longer have much of a timeline to not want to drag our feet.
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I expected the pick next year to be conditional, but I expected more difficult conditions to receive a 1st. Something like a 3rd, but a 2nd if Rodgers plays in 65% of the snaps, and a 1st if he wins the division or plays in the conference championship. There's no reason the Packers won't get an extra 1st in 2024 barring injury. Great deal.
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Freaking out over Rodgers saying he was "90% retired" before he went on the retreat is a cop out. It's Aaron Rodgers, he just says stuff. I don't believe for a second that Rodgers was 90% committed to retiring now and forfeiting 60 million before he went into his retreat. The man is 39, the possibility always exists that he won't be long for the NFL.
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Given Gute's track record with 3rds I have basically no interest in those, especially late. 49ers are one of the best in the league with or without Rodgers so I'd venture that hypothetical 24 1st is very late. I'd speculate Gute would prefer to get some help now to kick off the Love era and get a low 40s pick and some additional capital next year.
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I suspect the 49ers involvement is much ado about nothing. I think the price is set and known to both the Packers and Jets and basically a done deal that just isn't going to become official until draft day or close to the draft as a matter of tactical preference for both. Not buying that the 49ers interest is anything more than media driven speculation. The 49ers also don't have anything other than a boatload of late 3rds this year, which would make them a pretty horrendous trade partner anyway. Its the Jets. IMO, it's going to be one of the Jets 2nds and something else next year, probably another 2nd, and the only matter of dramatics is whether or not and how likely that 2nd next year can become a 1st.
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Hard sell
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I thought Logan Paul was kind of a joke when he started doing WWE stuff, but he belongs.
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Not that I'm complaining, but how come when I was a kid you had to cough up big bucks for any WWE pay-per-view, especially Wrestlemania, and now any chump with a 4.99 a month Peacock subscription can watch Live?
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No, I know he cleared and we still have him. Just still feels like the end of an era that never happened of a guy that I thought would anchor our offense for a decade.
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I don't think you can be outrighted without being DFAed? Not 100% sure on that. All I meant to point out, even though I understand he remains with the organization, is that it feels like the end of an era that never was with Hiura. A few years ago I thought he was going to be a mainstay in this lineup for years, but I was very mistaken. If only our offense had the Hiura and Yelich we thought we had 3 years ago, who knows where the fortunes of this organization would be. EDIT: Oops sorry, back to the Packers 😅
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He was in fact DFA'ed, and I understand he was also outrighted after his DFA. https://apnews.com/article/mlb-brewers-voit-varland-turang-9aad51e45978d726cb3cd45dd8b430c8
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That we DFAed Keston Hiura :(
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It doesn't surprise me that we asked for #13. It also doesn't surprise me that we never really had a chance of getting it.
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I think the 24 1st will be conditional. So if they suck, chances are the pick doesn't end up being a 1st. If Gute can get a guaranteed 1st, fantastic but conditional with a reasonable chance of it becoming a 1st seems a lot more likely to me.
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Gute has already basically conceded that we aren't insisting on #13. I don't really know why we are even speculating on it anymore. Now, a 24 1st seems reasonably possible if the conditions are as reasonable as the last article suggests (Jets host a divisional playoff game or make the AFCCG), so get ready to cheer for the Jets in 2023.
