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  1. I would have liked that a lot better. I think I'm less irritated about Love when it comes to the 2020 draft as I am about using Day 2 picks on dime a dozen a players like Dillon and Josiah Deguara.
  2. Not a narrative, just the facts -- sorry Louis, Gute doesn't get a pass just because the events were independent of each other. It's your job as GM to have the pulse of both individual situations and be able to plan accordingly as to whether you're going to be able to keep the band together. You want to excuse him for being left holding the enormous Rodgers bag with no WR1 just because Adams asked out after the extension? Really? It was the worst possible outcome in that scenario, and Gutekunst absolutely mismanaged the situation, and that's been the opinion of numerous sportswriters, not just myself. By the way, Adams has since said he would have signed the extension to stay in Green Bay had it been earlier and not in the 11th hour.
  3. I guess I'm looking for what Gute has really accomplished for us that would give anyone pause at moving on. The 2020, as I understand has been beaten to death, was an absolute disaster, and many of us felt that way about it well before we have the advantage of hindsight. I'm certainly not the most glass half-full, but when it comes to the draft I typically take the approach of, "well, let's wait and see." Not 2020. It made no sense. I'm not going to say it's impossible for Love to end up salvaging it, but early returns are obviously not good. I think the most damning indictment of Gute was his handling of the 2022 offseason. Everyone would have understood if he had gone all-in once more. Everyone would have understood if he wanted to turn the page and move forward with his guy, and take the huge haul for Rodgers while it was available to him. Instead he did NEITHER, signed Rodgers, then traded Adams and moved forward with a group of young receivers supplemented by Sammy Watkins, of all people. It was an inexplicable sequence of events and the results were another predictable disaster. What are Gute's big "wins"? Maybe Jaire, Jenkins and Gary, who took several years to get there? That's a pretty darn short list of big wins over a 5 year tenure given the severity of the mistakes.
  4. He's not a FA after 2023. They extended him through 2024 to basically get an out that picking up the option wouldn't give them. They can move on but there will be some dead money if they do.
  5. Murphy should probably be removed for his hazing scandal alone, but of course we never hear about that.
  6. No, it's not. You can go back to the 2020 draft thread and see that the general theme from a lot of us was somewhere between "what in the actual hell are we thinking/doing" and "this is an absolute disaster." That is the opposite of hindsight. You also don't have to tell me twice that the Packers have a notoriously long leash to an absolute fault with both coaches and front office personnel. It's part of the reason that we haven't seen a Super Bowl in 13 years despite elite QB play because we don't hold our personnel accountable for poor performance, or we do it far too late.
  7. I mean, we're all in agreement that Brian Gutekunst should be fired, right? Whether you think they got the wrong guy in Love...or whether you think Love sucks because the cast around him is awful...both of those are the responsibility of Brian Gutekunst, no?
  8. You know what would have been more fun than taking a "risk" in 2020? Finding a player in the 1st round that would have had a chance to be an immediate difference maker on a championship level team and put that team over the edge and maybe make a Super Bowl in 20-21 or 21-22 instead of sitting here and saying "what if" on everything. If you're going to take a risk you had better either 1) be damn certain that you are in fact the smartest man in the room and end up being right, or 2) have a strong enough track record of wins to earn a free pass. (See John Lynch). Brian Gutekunst has neither. This "mistake" is going to cost him his job. It's not if, it's when.
  9. The most hilarious part about all this is that we aren't even going to get our high draft pick consolation prize from the Jets.
  10. It's been a "good old boys" club in Green Bay for decades. And they got away with it for a long time because someone was covering up the stank and making people think they were actually good.
  11. I'm not even mad. It's been a long time coming for our coaching and front office to get publicly exposed for how bad they are and not be able to hide behind one or two players the last 30 years.
  12. Not a great look for the organization to have spent a 1st and a 4th for a QB to be a backup for a team coming off an NFC championship game appearance, sit 3 years and then be "not great."
  13. Barry being garbage is a separate issue from the offense. You can always justify firing Joe Barry. If you want him to just be one of many, I'm totally good with that.
  14. Lol Love. You aren't Lamar Jackson.
  15. It is 100% his decision. You think Brian Gutekunst is going to bat for this clown?
  16. How much longer do I have to pretend that this is a competently run organization?
  17. I mean don't let the bad offense distract anyone from the fact that Joe Barry is still the worst defensive coordinator in the league.
  18. I don't like a lot of what I've seen from Love, but I can't see any young QB with what he has in place having any success. Clifford isn't going to come in and be the guy, we know that. There's just no point in making a move now, you'll get more from being able to evaluate him over the season. If they don't improve they'll be picking top . If they pick top 5 I'd imagine they go pick another guy.
  19. We don't know if he is the answer. The whole team is a mess. No one I'd talking about giving him 5 more seasons, that's obviously a major embellishment. But you at least give him the one season when you clearly don't have his successor waiting in the wings. If he sucks as much as you say you'll get your replacement soon enough but you already know the future isn't Clifford.
  20. How do you literally run out of time to get to the endzone starting a drive with 5 minutes left in the half, all 3 timeouts plus the 2 minute warning? Like how is an offense that poorly coached and managed?
  21. Again, insanely poor clock management. This drive started with 5 minutes left in the half.
  22. Great footwork, Jordan. The clock management has been so poor on this drive. There was no reason that we should have run out of time before we had a chance to punch it in and yet here we are.
  23. Typical "dance around and bark and hope for a free 1st down strategy" and then we have to burn a timeout.
  24. Ok? So we want to bench Jordan Love for Sean Clifford now because a 2nd overall pick 25 years ago was a bust?
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