This oft-repeated suggestion by many that Melvin & Co. don't have a plan is absurd. Folks may disagree with the FO's choice of approach, but that's entirely different than lacking a plan. I love the potential of young players, but as someone else just suggested, with Hart at 1B & hopefully Segura manning SS, the only major lineup question mark is RF (and I think it's still worth giving Gamel a shot at RF). The rotation has Yo & a bunch of youth (which is why I like a lower-risk 1-year Marcum deal if he's healthy) but that's nonetheless a talented AND capable bunch. That leaves the rest of the RPs after Axford. McClendon & Henderson, plus Estrada if the rotation's sufficiently loaded otherwise, are among the cheap guys who could legitimately vie for spots... And as we've often seen Melvin's words proven true, the bullpen is the easiest part of your team to turn over annually. . . . That's a solid plan: a solid major league roster AND loads of strong young talent coming up at all levels. That's a recipe for becoming the Detroit Red Wings of the past 20 years. The payroll is not ridiculous. I totally agree that while there are potentially some concerns, this isn't a crappy team next year as long as they fix the bullpen, and in fact it's one that has as good a chance as any of contending to win the NL Central. And being a competitive team in contention takes care of continuing to bring folks through the turnstiles.... As such, I can't at all buy into the logic of trading Hart or Ramirez (who are producing solidly for their ages & relatively reasonable contracts -- Lord knows, guys on the FA market would get paid much more than these two are (thinking Ramirez's AAV, not year-by-year salary) with mostly safe certainty that you couldn't guarantee any better production) right now OR the idea of blowing most of this team up and playing every young player on the planet outside of Braun's & Lucroy's positions (Hello, Seattle Mariners!). Two years ago, the Reds won the division and were seen as a team to beat for several years. Last year several guys underproduced and they weren't serious contenders at all by crunch time. While they added Mat Latos & worked to improve the weaker spots some over the winter, sure enough, they're really strong again this year. . . . The Brewers of '12 potentially mirror the Reds of '11, so it's hardly a given that the Brewers are doomed to being a 2nd-division team for the foreseeable future. I, for one, believe they indeed have nearly as good of a chance going forward as any other good team in the division. While we don't have Greinke any more (not that he couldn't re-sign, however unlikely), this is still a team that could contend AND is in a position of strength in terms of not having any major gaping position holes across its prospects.