I am with Greg 100%, not that we really should be taking sides, but in the context that he represents many concerns that I also share. While I'm newer to the site than Greg, I was also upset at the closing of the thread for the exact reasons Greg so eliquently discussed. I also realize the mods jobs are hard (I've made a few mistakes myself that have lead to some nasty exchanges and hopefully I've learned from my mistakes.) To me, that's a good reason for locking a thread. I disagree strongly. The problem is that the decision as to what is not substantial dialogue/information is extremely subjective. I've found tens of threads to provide absolutely no substantial or informative dialogue. Heck 95% of the Trade Rumors forum is not substantial or informative. http://forum.brewerfan.net/images/smilies/smile.gif If you use that criteria I think you will find more cases of posters questioning such criteria and more claims that Brewerfan.net is elitist. I agree with having set standards on dialogue, and civility, and politics, because those can be pretty well differentiated (while there has been some grey area for civility and politics) for the most part, but adding a very subjective criteria such as substantial and informative dialogue is gonna open a whole can of worms. Thanks for the great job all those associated with BF.net do to make the forums and the site the best place to learn and discuss the Brewers.