These are not short term issues, it's always the same issues coming back around, the same scenarios repeating themselves over and over. Does anyone honestly think next year we're magically going to have a young and effective rotation and our problems will be solved? Why would next year be any different than this year? The only thing that would save next season is Butler, Rivas, and Rogers finishing this season dominant and proving that they are ready for a shot. Every we always say next year will be different... why? That's what we were saying in 2008 after Sabathia walked... Melvin has to make a move for pitching. That's exactly was said after Looper, Bush, and Parra failed last season... Melvin has to make a move. That's what exactly what we're all saying now... it's the same pattern repeating over and over and over going all the way back his time in Texas. There's no long term strategy here, there's just continual band aid fixes. Hoffman isn't the cause of the problem, he's an effect. Some people around here have cause/effect flipped on itself. All of these issues go back to the same root cause, a failure to build a rotation with enough talent at the top. Every other issue here is a side effect of that one core issue... wasting money on FA pitching, relying on old veterans approaching the end of their rope, the issues with pitching depth, the overuse of the bullpen, the poor results on the field... all of it goes back to the fact we're still a 1 pitcher team, all of it. Where's the evidence of a long term strategy for the top of the rotation? What happened when Jones, Rogers, and Parra all got hurt? What happened when Yo got hurt and everyone knew Sheets was going to walk? What happened after last season? The answer... nothing different. The same exact approach with the same predictable results. How are we ever going to get a different result if the approach/methods don't change? If impact pitching isn't the answer I'd sure love for someone to come up with a different viable solution. I think about this stuff every single day, and I just don't see how the smallest market in baseball can remain competitive long term without the focus being on the top of the rotation. You think I'm wrong? That's fine, give me a different solution that the majority of us can buy into. Just quit trying to sell me on how unlucky the organization has been. How many years of bad luck does it take to convince people that problem is actually the decisions that are being made and not the baseball gods continually crapping on the Brewers?