Realistic Offers you’d make pre winter meetings that you could see being accepted?

[Scooterfletcher]

I figure this might be a decently interesting thread until we reach the winter meetings.   Obviously Kikuchi, Snell, and D’Arnaud were offered and accepted deals prior to the winter meetings.

My question to you all is this:  What players would you make legitimate strong offers to like now (prior to the winter meetings) that you could see being accepted?

 

Id be ok with the following:

Moncada: 1/8 with second year mutual option at 16 million . (1.5 million buyout)

Polanco: 1/6 million with second year mutual option at 10 million. (1 million buyout).

Flaherty: 5/100 million 

O’Neil: 2/30 million

Analysis:  Obviously Mark A would need to sign off on the Flaherty deal but that is our nominal offer to our own top guys and maybe we’d see Jack as an ace-ish starter we desperately need at a relatively affordable price.

O’Neil would be a value signing with the power bat we could use after losing Adames and we’d need to make the pieces fit in some sort of OF/Dh rotation.

Moncada I love in a prove it deal as he’s still somewhat young and has big upside and strong defense.   Seems Milwaukee would be a place he’d potentially play his best.

Polanco would be a nice vet bat for the bench and can play 2b at minimum.  Other than last year he’s been really solid and won’t cost a ton.

[Klantz27]

8 minutes ago, Scooterfletcher said:

I figure this might be a decently interesting thread until we reach the winter meetings.   Obviously Kikuchi, Snell, and D’Arnaud were offered and accepted deals prior to the winter meetings.

My question to you all is this:  What players would you make legitimate strong offers to like now (prior to the winter meetings) that you could see being accepted?

 

Id be ok with the following:

Moncada: 1/8 with second year mutual option at 16 million . (1.5 million buyout)

Polanco: 1/6 million with second year mutual option at 10 million. (1 million buyout).

Flaherty: 5/100 million 

O’Neil: 2/30 million

Analysis:  Obviously Mark A would need to sign off on the Flaherty deal but that is our nominal offer to our own top guys and maybe we’d see Jack as an ace-ish starter we desperately need at a relatively affordable price.

O’Neil would be a value signing with the power bat we could use after losing Adames and we’d need to make the pieces fit in some sort of OF/Dh rotation.

Moncada I love in a prove it deal as he’s still somewhat young and has big upside and strong defense.   Seems Milwaukee would be a place he’d potentially play his best.

Polanco would be a nice vet bat for the bench and can play 2b at minimum.  Other than last year he’s been really solid and won’t cost a ton.

You're insanely over paying  moncada Polanco is a waste of money oniel won't happen he will get a higher aav for a longer term and we have a bunch of outfielders and I bet we would resign adames before we spent 100 mil on flaherty 

[Scooterfletcher]

Mondada could easily get 1/10 with incentives I bet 

[sveumrules]

2 minutes ago, Scooterfletcher said:

Mondada could easily get 1/10 with incentives I bet 

The 50th guy on MLBTR's Top 50 Free Agents was Spencer Turnbull with a one year, seven million prediction. They then listed 18 honorable mentions, none of them were Moncada.

The 50th guy on FanGraphs Top 50 Free Agents was Kyle Gibson with a one year, nine million prediction. They ran a second article with nine guys who just missed the list, none of them were Moncada.

These resources aren't infallible by any means, but they generally have pretty good bearings on the market.

Maybe some team will roll the dice and give him a guaranteed deal, but given all the uncertainty around his health and with his last impactful season being all the way back in 2021 now I personally wouldn't give him anything more than a minor league deal with an invite to camp.

[Klantz27]

1 hour ago, Scooterfletcher said:

Mondada could easily get 1/10 with incentives I bet 

I couldn't see anything more than 2-3 

[Scooterfletcher]

3 hours ago, Klantz27 said:

I couldn't see anything more than 2-3 

With lots of incentives maybe but probably 5 mil base minimum.

[Scooterfletcher]

Also let me add….the entire point here is not to disagree with me rather for you posters to answer the question:

Do you have a Kikuchi/Snell/D’Arnaud idea for a player(s) that might be good enough for them to accept prior to the winter meetings extravaganza.   I don’t care if you don’t like mine.   What guys would you offer a big enough contract that they might accept to?

[bigred]

On 11/30/2024 at 9:01 PM, Scooterfletcher said:

Also let me add….the entire point here is not to disagree with me rather for you posters to answer the question:

Do you have a Kikuchi/Snell/D’Arnaud idea for a player(s) that might be good enough for them to accept prior to the winter meetings extravaganza.   I don’t care if you don’t like mine.   What guys would you offer a big enough contract that they might accept to?

Fans that are realistic, probably won't waste their time with this, because Milwaukee is a small market, so they know it's extremely unlikely that Milwaukee would go after players that would command "big" contracts. 

[bigred]

On 11/30/2024 at 9:01 PM, Scooterfletcher said:

Also let me add….the entire point here is not to disagree with me rather for you posters to answer the question:

Do you have a Kikuchi/Snell/D’Arnaud idea for a player(s) that might be good enough for them to accept prior to the winter meetings extravaganza.   I don’t care if you don’t like mine.   What guys would you offer a big enough contract that they might accept to?

The point isn't to disagree with you? We get it, you just refuse to accept that Milwaukee is a small market, so you hold out hope they'll sign a "big name" "big $$" player. Sorry to be so blunt, but most fans know there's a bout a .05% chance they will even talk to such players, so you basically set yourself up for people to disagree with you. 

[Scooterfletcher]

5 hours ago, bigred said:

The point isn't to disagree with you? We get it, you just refuse to accept that Milwaukee is a small market, so you hold out hope they'll sign a "big name" "big $$" player. Sorry to be so blunt, but most fans know there's a bout a .05% chance they will even talk to such players, so you basically set yourself up for people to disagree with you. 

I brought up Moncada, Polanco, O’Neil, Flaherty.   Not huge bank breaking deals in my proposals.   I accept your blunt apology kind sir.  

[bigred]

11 hours ago, Scooterfletcher said:

I brought up Moncada, Polanco, O’Neil, Flaherty.   Not huge bank breaking deals in my proposals.   I accept your blunt apology kind sir.  

Thereno way they'll pay Flaherty $20M per year, or any other FA pitcher.