7/11/2004 - Brewers (Santos) vs. Reds (Acevedo)

[PeaveyFury]

alright Peavey, that nickname officially sucks... GB OB is officially gone

 

It really seems like OOOOOOOOOOverbay is starting to catch on at the Keg with the fans pretty much using the 'Section O' chant from Badger games.......

[RoseBowlMtg]

OK let's get a couple this inning!

[endaround]

Take Santos out.

[endaround]

So which is the stranger decision, bringing Kinney in with men on base or using Valentin as a pinch hitter?

[nohopspanther]

Thank God Ned doesn't want to win today. Way to go Kinney.

[rluzinski]

You have almost your entire pitching staff available and Kinney is the one you go with?

 

EDIT: I'm sick of hearing that Kinney's been good out of the pen!

[Mike2k33]

Matt Kinneyhttp://forum.brewerfan.net/images/smilies/mad.gif

[davego]

son of a .............

 

release time for Mr. Kinney.

[badgerfan.tgf]

Matt Kinney sucks!

[davego]

c'mon Mike. Bring the A stuff.

[tomwopat]

dear lord almighty, matt kinney sucks.

 

you could say he's been effective in relief when the game hasn't been on the line, but then there's outings like this.

 

http://lj.marginal.net/kinneysucks.jpg

[rluzinski]

But Kinney hasn't given up any earned runs this inning, so he must be doing just fine!

[brewmann04]

*** is Yost Thinking

 

THE WHOLE PEN AND HE BRINGS IN THE BIGGEST STIFF IN THE PEN

[Oregon Brew]

The Crew's offense needs to get going. They have not even managed a threat since Overbay was left on base with 1 out at 3rd.

[rluzinski]

This whole 13 pitcher thing was a joke anyway. Half these guys pitch once a damn week out of the pen. Yost will say Obbey was never given a fair shot since he didn't pitch regularily, then let his bullpen rot on the bench.

 

They better get the rules in the bullpen figured out during the all star break. Right now who Yost picks seems random.

 

EDIT: Nice to see the Crew blow a 5 run lead. I guess they didn't WANT it enough guys, huh?

[endaround]

Yes Kinney should be able to get Valentin out. Hell, Matt Erickson should get Valentin out. But Yost should realize that Kinney has problems with men on base. He needs to work on that, but not in a 5-2 game but in a 10-2 game.

[davego]

Who do I hate more:

 

a) Kinney

b) G. Bennett

c) Helms

 

 

HARD TO CHOOSE JUST ONE.

[nohopspanther]

Prince up to bat on ESPN 2 futures game.

[batman]

I realize that there is a lot of latent hatred for Matt Kinney from his days as a starter, but I don't get the venomous reaction to his relief work. Endaround is correct in asserting that Kinney has had difficulty preventing inherited runs from scoring... coming into today' game, he had allowed 1.7 inherited runners to score below average. At the same time, however, his Adjusted Runs Prevented total of 4.9 is third-best on the team, behind only Dan Kolb and Mike Adams. He has been *better* than Vizcaino, though the Dealin' Dominican has been very good at preventing inherited runners from scoring.

 

This was a bad situation to put Kinney into... Vizcaino or Adams would have been preferable in an inherited runners situation, definitely. But there's no reason to hate on Kinney... he's been doing his job well. Not so much today, but that's no reason to release him.

 

~Bill

[nohopspanther]

NM, gammons is smoking crack again.

[tomwopat]

ugggggggggh

[davego]

Yea, now you had to go an apply reason to this. Kinney seems to be better off when startign an inning w/o runners on.

 

Woops, Adams.

[batman]

Mike Adams picked a bad time to suck.

 

~Bill

[PeaveyFury]

But Yost should realize that Kinney has problems with men on base.

 

So Yost should realize that even though Kinney was brought in two other times in this series to work out of big jams and did so successfully?

[jmon482]

there is no way in hell we are losing this game after going up 5-0 C'MON BREWERS!!!!!!!!!