Ace Of The Future: Jacob Misiorowski vs. Carlos Rodriguez

Carlos Rodriguez seems much more projectable as a starting pitcher.  He threw 123 innings last year while Misiorowski only threw 71.  There are questions about whether Misiorowski can have the control or the stamina to go even 5 or 6 innings in a game.  Rodriguez is probably on the radar as part of the starting pitching plan for 2024 although not up at the beginning of the season.     

It will be interesting to see if they can add enough good weight onto Misiorowski's frame so he can build the endurance to be a starting pitcher.  Also will the Brewers be patient enough with him rather than calling him up and putting him in the pen some time in 2024? He seems much more on a Josh Hader path as a relief pitcher if he comes up this year. 

4 hours ago, Michael Trzinski said:

'Miz' has a higher ceiling and could end up as a #1 starter but could just as easily be used as a high-leverage reliever. 
To me, CFR will eventually be slotted as a #2 or #3 starter.

I think CFR has a higher floor but probably won't reach the heights that Miz could.

Exactly. That's why this article is a bit confusing. Where is Gasser? A lefty who strikes a lot of people out? He's got a similar ceiling to Rodriguez. But if the question is who's most likely to be the next ACE? It's Misiorowski and there's not a close 2nd at this time(well, Knoth I guess, but he's on a whole other timeline). 

28 minutes ago, BrewerFan said:

Exactly. That's why this article is a bit confusing. Where is Gasser? A lefty who strikes a lot of people out? He's got a similar ceiling to Rodriguez. But if the question is who's most likely to be the next ACE? It's Misiorowski and there's not a close 2nd at this time(well, Knoth I guess, but he's on a whole other timeline). 

I think it’s fair to say that C-Rod has the highest floor of any pitcher in the organization if we are talking specifically about starting.  Gasser, at least for me, doesn’t come particularly close at this point, purely in terms of floor.  In my head, if I had to choose one starter from the organization to be the guy going forward, I seriously question whether it would be Miz or C-Rod simply due to the risk with Miz (health, durability, probability of transitioning to relief).  I think it’s fair to leave Gasser out of this convo for now.  Knoth might be up there too, just a different timeline altogether like you said.

I just don’t see the upside with C Rod, as I don’t think the stuff is there. I do think he has a safe 4/5 starter floor, though.

Mis is just on an entirely different level. Command will be key, but the pure stuff is better than anyone in the minors with the possible exception of Skenes. 

I’ll disagree with Arob, and say that I like Gasser’s potential to be something resembling a TOR pitcher. I think he’s 2021-2022 Lauer but with better strikeout ability. That’s a #3 starter at minimum.

2 hours ago, ARobsBrewCrew said:

I think it’s fair to say that C-Rod has the highest floor of any pitcher in the organization if we are talking specifically about starting.  Gasser, at least for me, doesn’t come particularly close at this point, purely in terms of floor.  In my head, if I had to choose one starter from the organization to be the guy going forward, I seriously question whether it would be Miz or C-Rod simply due to the risk with Miz (health, durability, probability of transitioning to relief).  I think it’s fair to leave Gasser out of this convo for now.  Knoth might be up there too, just a different timeline altogether like you said.

Sure, I could see the argument that Rodriguez may have the highest floor of any of these three, but the post is specifically about the Brewers next ace. Gasser was on top 100 lists at points last year, he's a lefty, a similar profile to Rodriguez(but he's a lefty). 

Neither have much more room to add velo, they each work in the low 90s, can tough ~95, they have one pitch that's plus, Gasser a slider, Rodriguez a CB. There's not much to separate the two right now. 

Both look like middle-of-the-rotation type pitchers. If Rodriguez can turn his Change into a more reliable plus pitch or if Gasser can improve his command and improve his cutter...maybe they end up as low-end #2s.

So if everyone reaches their potential...I feel like this question answers itself. Misiorowski has concerns, but none of them are about his ceiling. 

On 1/3/2024 at 10:04 PM, ARobsBrewCrew said:

I think it’s fair to say that C-Rod has the highest floor of any pitcher in the organization if we are talking specifically about starting.  Gasser, at least for me, doesn’t come particularly close at this point, purely in terms of floor.  In my head, if I had to choose one starter from the organization to be the guy going forward, I seriously question whether it would be Miz or C-Rod simply due to the risk with Miz (health, durability, probability of transitioning to relief).  I think it’s fair to leave Gasser out of this convo for now.  Knoth might be up there too, just a different timeline altogether like you said.

What don’t you like about Gasser? Command is sound, deep arsenal, attacks hitters, has shown he can pitch a lot of innings and not miss a start? I agree he may not have top of the rotation stuff but he at least looks like a good number 3 if not a really nice number 4. To me he seems like a much doper Eric Lauer with more consistency and better stuff. Whats not to like compared to someone like Rodriguez?