BrewerFan

I don't fully understand that. The BP has been great as it stands, but if you take Megill out of there, it sure seems like it will be. Our #2 RHH would be... Grant Anderson? And what are we getting at SS/3B(which I don't think will be a problem with Rengifo, but lets say that it is)... who is giving up a significant upgrade for a little over a year or a late inning reliever? You'd be lucky to get a Jett Williams type. Ok, if Wilken, Adams or Burke can prove they can hit at AAA, then fine. Though they're different players and offer little in the way of versatility. Some 3B/1B, but if they're going to be up, the need for 3B goes down. And that's if Rengifo's BABIP stays at ~.200. I'm thinking it's going to go up a bit. It's really not. Trading Devin Williams at the ASB before the playoffs would have been the Brewers way. Trading Adames before his final year would have been max value. Trading Burnes with 2 years to go would have been max value. They generally trade a guy with a year left or they let him walk. They don't trade a closer if he's throwing well and the one time they did... they openly said they made a mistake. Of course if I took that literally, Misiorowski's value is probably peak value right now. But they're not trading him. You have to have SOME balance for winning and staying competitive. Every year we make what generally turns out to be an ill-fated attempt to trade for a high leverage reliever. We ask about the better ones, they're too expensive, we take a lesser one. I don't see how the BP is going to fix itself, it's going to be... almost all lefties out there(especially if Koenig does come back) and a pretty big hit when your SP'ing is expected to go 5 or MAYBE 6 innings. That's Uribe... maybe Ashby, though he usually comes in after the starter and then just a list of pitchers we have that are in no way high leverage relievers. I put all the lefties in bold. I put the pitchers I'd trust at all late in a playoff game in Italics. I'm just not seeing how you can afford to trade an AS Closer AND say you're serious about competing. This December? Sure. This July if we're near the top of the division? No. It's like the trading pitching depth you proposed trading from. There's a lot of names, but that doesn't mean you want to count on them in big spots OR that you frankly even have enough. We're really at the point where if we're going to trade for someone, we should be trading for a Megill and trading the prospects. NOT the other way around.

So you're asking if Megill gets back to form... which, I think he's back there now as he's gone 7IP, 2H, 1BB 0 ERs and 8K with a 1.29 FIP. Even on the year he has a 2.29 FIP. But if you're talking about ERA... once he's back to a dominant late inning reliever...we should trade him? WHY? That's exactly what we need. A dominant back end of the bullpen. We don't have power arms ready in the minor leagues, we haven't signed anyone or claimed anyone who can be like Megill. I suppose if we're under .500 at the deadline and 10 back... fine, but we're still competitive what looks like a Sunday lineup EVERYDAY without Vaughn, Chourio and Yelich, all of whom should be back by June. What depth? I guess Bauers, but again, I'd prefer to keep him as his value would be minimal and we have plenty of mediocre prospects(and lots of very good ones). We have worse relievers with lots of team control. Dominant closers who can throw an upper 90s fastball by you... those are decidedly more difficult to come by. Are we punting on this season? Or... I'm not sure I understand. You always want to turn a older guy like Megill into a younger version of Megill, but... for obvious reasons, teams don't tend to do that. At best they take an arm like Sproat who they don't believe is reliable enough and they trade him for an immediate upgrade because they don't have the time or the patience to wait, but you're almost certainly getting a downgrade. If you're saying do this AFTER the season, sure. He's in a walk year and we have all off-season to find some arms and you may have a better read on some other pitchers in the system, but I don't see how it serves any purpose to do so this year. If I could pick a position... while accounting for price, I'd definitely look for a high leverage RHed reliever. Obviously I'd love a Starting pitcher, but they're really expensive if they're valuable and we had Pratt, Made, Pena, Jett, coming up pretty quickly, corner IFers(in addition to Pratt who probably ends up there), Wilken, Adams, Burke... But I've yet to see a BP that was overburdened with power arms.

I'm still not sure what to make of the pen. I think it'll... kinda hinge on Megill. His Velo is about where it was this time last year. He has a 2.41 FIP, but they have been just less reliable last year. It's not just the losses, I'd be willing to guess there were more games where they were down 1-2 runs and the BP gave up runs, hurting our chances to come back as well as the 8 losses. I'd love to see another reliever added. My early season crush Grant Taylor is dominant and... a rookie, so no reason the CHW trade him, but I'd love to see that 3rd power arm, right handed power arm added... and I don't think we have one in the MiLB who looks like they'll be ready soon.

Payne seems like the ultimate boom or bust type prospect. I'd rather target players like him in this next draft vs a... Sal Frelick or Tyler Black(even Turang going back to his profile). If you're going off just pure upside in this system, assuming everyone reaches their potential, it feels like it's -Made -Payne -Pena -Dinges(this would mean he becomes a plus defensive catcher at the MLB level). -Pratt-If he's hitting 25HR, 10% BB%. Then we have so many power arms in the low minors. Most players don't hit their ceilings, but Payne and Pena both have the speed to be elite CFers, but Payne hitting .280 with his BB% and potential for 30 HRs could be an MVP caliber player. Bryan Buxon and... even Garrett Mitchell or Joey Wiemer had somewhat similar upsides. Wiemer couldn't play CF at that level. Hope we hit. Seems like those guys rarely do. From Brinson to Carlos Gomez who was still pretty good for a stretch, Cameron Maybin, Bubba Starling, Jo Adell... and more guys than I could possibly remember.

Yeah, it also shows what a "slump" looked like for Bonds! .421 OBP, during that "slump."

They just find a way to win though. They were 10-20... either last year or the year prior and made a playoff run. I still like Ortiz. I believe he'll find a role with a team in the future as a super utility player. Playing 2B, SS and 3B all at a high level... but he's got a OPS of what, .590 the last two years. I could see a veteran reliever who's been DFA for Ortiz, but his value is at an all-time low. If he had an option, I think you may be able to get something good for him(as in a low level arm with projection and poor command) perhaps, but there's no value. As for Pena, this would make sense and I don't think the money would be the obstacle. I think it's a factor now that you have extended Pratt and you really have to extend Made, but not prohibitive. But it'd cost a guy like Dinges, Adamczewski, maybe Braylon Payne a prospect like that+ a Tate Kuehner type arm... IMO. And that may be light. If we had a lineup that was firing on all cylinders and we had just the holes on the left side of the infield, I'd be much more on board, but we're missing our 3 best power hitters, our bullpen isn't throwing particularly well. I'm still on the Grant Taylor train. I'd give up Adamczewski+another solid prospect for Taylor. But not Pena.

It's not much different than what they did with Hardy, except he didn't have the contract. He played some at AAA, got hurt, miss the rest of the year and then they just threw him out there to sink or swim at the next level. I think he's still going to have pressure because of that contract, not in spite of it, but that's part of what you have to deal with. Pressure to live up to it and most baseball players with talent struggle because they start pressing, but... it's professional baseball. You have to deal with some pressure.

Lloyd has had comically bad luck... but according to those who cover the Packers, he's looked great in TC the last couple years. They sent Lloyd to the Badger Athletic Performance Center... which has done a pretty good job in recent years of helping guys like Watson, Stokes, Williams stay healthy(at least from things like hamstring injuries or calf injuries). I wouldn't count on Lloyd, but... it'd be nice. He adds an element this team has missed since we moved on from Aaron Jones.

I don't think there's any reason to think Parsons is going to be out 6 weeks, but if there is, Thibodeaux is a pretty similar player to LVN(LVN had a higher grade last year). Financially it CAN work. It'd eat up nearly 15M in cap space that I would think they'd want for extensions... and if they're going to do make a move for a player like Thibodeaux, Clowney is available. If the Giants are eating 5M of his cap hit that would make it easier. You're losing 3 years of cheap upside in Oliver and Sorrell, both of whom have been staying with and training with Parsons this off-season. I guess how you view those two would have a big impact. I thought Sorrell looked really good at times last year. I think he'll be a good rotational edge. Oliver is a pretty big swing, but easier to justify as a 3-4 OLBer. His speed, he could be a 3rd down specialist while Thibodeaux is more of a well rounded Edge and it seems like there's still a lot more upside in there. We could just make it Abdul-Carter and go with a Penn State Edge rotation. What other positions do you think we'd be targeting? Run blocking TE? MyCole Pruitt is available(and cheap)... Feels like the Packers have to be higher on someone like Glover than we realize, otherwise I think they'd be doing more to find a swing OT. RB could be helpful.

I thought of Thibedoeau before we drafted another edge. I don't think we have room for him at this point. Van Ness, Dennis-Sutton, Sorrell, Oliver, Parsons... then Mosby or Cox as the 6th(at least to start the year). I think we're pretty good there. The Giants are starting to build a pretty talented young team...

Hmm... are we sure about this? His fastest recorded Fastball was 100.9(in the 9th inning and IIRC it was pitch 150) but they measured it from 10 feet from home plate. Now they measure it from the release. Carnegie Mellon University physics department figured he threw 108.1 using the drag on the ball. I'm not sure that's true, but it's still pretty insasne. It's really an ancillary point, but Nolan Ryan was... just a freak. Threw 98 MPH in the 9th inning after tearing his UCL(which effectively ended his career). ANYWAY... main point, Misiorowski is a freak. You see him maturing every start also. Pitching smarter.

They also just paid him a 1M roster bonus last month. I'd have liked to see those 7th rd picks used on a guy like Pounds or World but they may have only had one kicker with a draftable grade.

That's good news. That line from his first outing read like someone who... was not feeling great.

Packers UDFA's https://packerswire.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/packers/2026/04/25/tracking-packers-undrafted-free-agent-signings-following-2026-draft/89735418007/

It's a little underwhelming... but they added two athletic CBs who can play the run, another Edge who has some upside. I wasn't a big fan of McClellan, but the Packers liked him so, I'll defer to them. Secondary now looks much better. Safety position is really strong. One of the better groups in the league. CB-Nixon, Cisse, Valentine, Jackson, St. Juste Edge is really deep. DL-I'd still love Campbell or Cam Jordan(preferably Campbell). OL is the position I'd say is still the biggest "need." Another good RB would be nice. Maybe Lloyd can stay healthy. A run blocking TE? Plus, this just seemed like a pretty mediocre draft.